MrSinatra Wrote: 
> have you ever used SN?
Actually no, but I'm not sure what that has to do with anything.

> i'm a newbie, but i think i merely entered a pin at the SN website to
> identify my SB and SN knew EXACTLY where it was, which leads me to
> believe the SB is always calling home, not that that bothers me. 
> (perhaps my recollection is wrong, but i'm pretty sure that right)
> 

When you create an account you tell it the PIN from your SB. That PIN
is unique to the SB, every one is different. Then when your SB tries to
connect to SN it says "my PIN is xxxx" and the SN servers know which
account to tie it to. The IP is just the IP which the SB happens to be
connecting from today (which could change and may not be unique, hence
why the PIN is needed). I don't see why that makes you think the SB
"calls home" and in fact I'm 99.999% sure it doesn't. I know for a fact
mine don't, because they live on a private subnet and can't see the
outside world.

> 
> i don't see how nat comes into it.  with just the cable modem IP it
> lists, it can find the SB whever it is behind my cable modem and
> router.
> 
NAT would come into it if you're simply counting IPs, but you're right,
in the specific case of SN it has the PIN mechanism which would give a
more accurate count.

> 
> 1. of course they know how many they've sold.
> 
Indeed.

> 
> 2. if it [the hardware] does always phone home, they'd know how many
> have net.
> 
It doesn't, and I'm not sure how much they would care. They know how
many people use SN, which is a useful figure, but how many SBs can find
a connection to the outside world? I'm not sure how useful that
information would be.

> 
> 3. my point in saying all that, was who cares if SS calls home or not,
> if the SB is hardwired to always call home anyway.
> 
Well I would care, and I think a number of other people would as well. 
Luckily, I know that doesn't happen - and that's just another reason to
love the open source nature of Slimserver.


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