On 1/8/07, MrSinatra
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

hi Jim,

as you can see, SD forums are basically two camps, cheerleaders and
cranks.


I'd actually rename those camps to those who bought what they want and
those who want something else but bought a Squeezebox anyway :)

i'm a crank.

i guess my problem is that i know exactly what i want, and no one makes
it.

i have a SB2, and like most people, i think the web UI stinks.  sorry,
but thats my opinion cheerleaders, and i'm entitled to it.

Aaargh!!! To the barricades me hearties, defeat this infidel!!!! Oh
wait, I actually don't care at all. Sorry for the confusion.

I don't think you can say "most people" without something to back it
up. Here's a stab at a poll:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31443 -- I'd say that
every vote for Option 2 or Option 4 is a vote you can count against
the stock interfaces :)

my other
concerns are that the SS software is very buggy, that the display is
only on the device, not the remote, (a big problem for me and many
others i'm sure) and that only SS software powers the device; it can't
be used as an external soundcard, (and therefore you can't "winamp it"
or itunes or dvd, or whatever...)


Four issues conflated into one sentence...
1) Slimserver is buggy, yes, and I'd personally like to see either
more rapid releases, or a move to the "perpetual beta" idea of these
Web 2.0 companies. Dump the release idea altogether and just put a
link to the latest nightly up on the download page.
2) Display on the remote is requested from time to time. Does nothing
for me, but you go right ahead.
3) Having alternate servers would be mildly interesting, except that
it would require switching from SS or SN to whatever, and back.
4) A VLW (very long wire) mode has the same problem, plus a
requirement to disable the buffer (which means that wireless users
will have even more problems than they do now). At the end of the day,
either of these issues end up with a device that does exactly what far
cheaper alternatives do (Airport Express for instance). Not saying
that's a bad thing to add-on, just that I have no need for it.

it [ss] also in recent versions has developed a weakness in streaming
internet stations b/c now the hardware does it alone.  i like that
paradigm, but the hardware needs to be as robust as software streaming
solutions, (like winamp).  some ISPs are flaky, SD products must
recognize that.  if winamp can do it, SD hardware better be able to do
it too.

I don't use enough Internet radio to comment, though I do think it's
kind of specious to use Winamp running on a full computer as your
standard to judge the SB by.


some of this has been gone over before, please see these links:

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821

(interestingly, its the cheerleaders who are the most paranoid about
logitech, whereas i'm not at all)

huh? I must have missed the score card, and the team rosters too :)
I'm pretty happy with the Squeezebox/Slimserver system as it stands,
but I'm in favor of the Logitech acquisition, but I like to mock the
people who scream that the sky is falling because their favorite
feature isn't present, so which team am I on?

--
"I spent all me tin with the ladies drinking gin,
So across the Western ocean I must wander" -- traditional
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