Jack Coates;168576 Wrote: 
> They have these things called "diagnostic tools" you know. traceroute,
> ping, and ethereal are almost everywhere, iptraf or bing would be
> great if you're on *nix. Your hesitance to use them and post results
> instead of SHOUTING a lot leads to my unwillingness to accept that
> you've thoroughly eliminated all the other possible problems. You
> haven't posted the results of a network bandwidth plugin test, you
> haven't reported if it works when you moved to wired, and you haven't
> said that you've used anything like *stumbler to validate your
> wireless neighborhood. Maybe you've done all these things and are
> insulted that anyone would impugn your troubleshooting capabilities,
> but that hasn't been communicated adequately (except for the insulted
> part).

actually, in the other threads, you can see my "traceroutes" and so
on.

however, i am not an internet routing expert and i am not familiar with
all the geeks diagnostic tools.  would it be helpful?  sure maybe, but i
am not aware of them, let alone qualified to use any of them, (beyond
ping and tracert).

i do think, your seeming expectation that i do all that when the SB has
a problem is lame and ridiculous.  first of all, why don't you ASK what
i've done previously?  secondly, if i haven't done something, why don't
you SUGGEST something for me to try and see if i do it before you
condemn me?  thirdly, and most important of all, the onus is on the SB
to work, not on the user to become a card carrying member of geek squad
to make it work or prove the problem is the SB's.

before you pop a blood vessel, i understand that frequently the user or
conditions the user is in are at fault for something not working
properly.  i TOTALLY get that.

but what bothers me is when i have explained to you that it isn't a
microwave, it isn't a neighbor, and it isn't my wireless, you continue
to insist it probably is.

all i can say to you is IF the problem happens again, i will wire it. 
when i do so, i fully expect the problem to remain, and we'll be right
back where i expected us to be, staring at the SB/SS as the most likely
probable cause.

all i can hope for at that time, is that you won't then find fault with
my router, modem, or cat5.

Jack Coates;168576 Wrote: 
> The point is that focusing on a single device in a complex system is a
> great way to chase your own tail. This is what the OSI layers are for.

its not like it stopped working, and i said SD did it.  i checked
everything, tried different things, and what remained as most probable
was SD.

Jack Coates;168576 Wrote: 
> 
> > at the time i was having the problem, i STILL had ruled out all
> other
> > possibilities within reason.  LOCAL 256kbps mp3s worked, SOME other
> net
> > streams worked, but some didn't.
> >
> > does the wireless care which stream i listen to???
> >
> 
> Yes, obviously, because the buffer is draining. If the data flow is
> marginal upstream of your location, hiccups in the last loop (wireless
> in this case) become more prominent. Bear in mind that Winamp on your
> PC has more than 25 megabits of buffer to work with.

you made no sense at all here.

understand what i am saying:

1.my SB is wireless.
2.it encountered problems with my streams of choice.
3.it couldn't play any of the 3 lion radio streams, even the 32kbps
ones.
4.HOWEVER, the SB COULD play some other streams, including a Soma 128
one, as well as my local mp3s.

winamp has nothing to do with what i just said.

so i ask again, does the wireless care which stream i listen to?

Jack Coates;168576 Wrote: 
> 
> > and how close would a microwave need to be?  and would they have it
> on
> > 24/7?
> >
> 
> a) Depends how leaky it is.
> b) What about a cordless phone? Or a generator? Or a home electronics
> kit? Maybe you're down the street from ezkcdude, building DACs in his
> garage :) I don't know that there is interference in your wireless
> loop, but I haven't seen you effectively rule it out by posting that
> the network bandwidth plugin is solidly 100%, so I'm mentioning
> it.[color=blue]

thats one leaky new microwave.

i have no landline.  my neighbors aren't close enough, and few if any
have broadband.  i haven't run any diags b/c as i said, i don't have
any diag pgms or know how to use them.

and if you mean what SD reports as my wireless strength, i believe i di
say earlier in this thread and in other threads that SD says its 100%.

listen, if you want to help me, thats kool and the gang, and i'll
appreciate any help i get and i think you'll find i'm willing to try
just about anything.

but 1. you gotta give me a chance first, and 2. you don't need to be a
smartass.

in the meantime, why don't you focus all that high powered technical
insight to the OP, who IS currently experiencing the issue, and who IS
wired?


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