Josh Coalson;143065 Wrote: 
> --- mkozlows <mkozlows.2f6eib1160003101 (AT) no-mx (DOT)
> forums.slimdevices.com>
> wrote:
> > 
> > Josh Coalson;143003 Wrote: 
> > > 
> > > you know, once you went with WMAL you pretty much tethered
> yourself
> > > to microsoft.  all microsoft has to say is 'no' to slimdevices or
> > > price the license too high, or ... and that's it.
> > > 
> > 
> > For very light values of "tether", considering that it's a lossless
> > format and there are freely downloadable SDKs and API documentation.
> 
> > WMA Lossless definitely isn't as open as FLAC, but it's no Apple
> > Lossless, either.
> 
> yeah, I see what you're saying, but as far as I know the libraries
> are binary-only and only work on windows, they're not going to help
> anyone except those already tethered to microsoft.  maybe you mean
> it at least allows you to transcode on a windows machine?  but that
> wasn't sufficient for Martin.
> 
> > Anyway, open source arguments notwithstanding, the current situation
> > kinda sucks for lossless people.  There's no lossless format that
> > will
> > natively work on the best software (Windows Media Player 11, which
> > only
> > supports WMA Lossless), the best portable device (the iPod, which
> > only
> > supports Apple Lossless)
> 
> .... or FLAC via rockbox.  yes there is effort to get it to work
> but less than getting WMAL to work on anything else.  best is also
> debateable as there are several very good portables that natively
> support FLAC.
> http://flac.sourceforge.net/links.html#hardware
> 
> all that said, the basic problem is choosing closed, proprietary
> codecs designed to lock you in, then asking for support for them
> from the competitors of the codecs' creators.  slim responded to
> user demand for FLAC because they could; it was open, free, well
> documented, had C reference decoder with source, and widely
> supported.  it is not so easy for ALAC or WMAL for many reasons.
> 
> I think your solution of using FLAC + MP3 is the most reasonable
> right now.
> 
> Josh

Better yet is FLAC + OGG.  iRiver has appeared to stop supporting  OGG
but there is iCowon.


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