MrSinatra;174327 Wrote: 
> i apparently have to explain this in painstaking detail...
> 
> 
> 
> ipod will work with other software, NOT ONLY itunes.
> 
> if it ONLY worked with itunes, it wouldn't be as popular as it is. 
> thats "so what."
> 
> 
> 
> you are totally missing the point, you completely misunderstand me.
> 
> 
> 
> try reading everything i wrote again.
> 
> i am NOT pissed about EITHER free, nothing you just wrote there above
> applies to me.
> 
> here's what i meant, and if you want to lay the blame at my feet for
> not being clear enough the first time, so be it:
> 
> SD makes NO MONEY or revenue out of developing SS.  there is no revenue
> in it for them.  i would also venture to guess that the costs
> ofdeveloping it far outweigh any partnerships they have with rhapsody
> and so on, if indeed those generate revenue at all.
> 
> they MAINLY make their money out of selling the hardware.
> 
> since that is the case, why FORCE us to use their free software?  why
> not make the hardware able to be used by any audio app, like winamp or
> itunes or musicmatch or whatever?
> 
> if they still wanted to develop and use SS they could, but it should
> not be the only way.
> 
> what confuses me, is why they FORCE is to use this ONLY way, when they
> give it out for free and make no money from it, and incur headaches and
> costs from it.
> 
> is this now clear?
> 
> 
> 
> it is in the interest of ANY company whose main revenue stream is
> SELLING HARDWARE to have their product more compatible, then less
> compatible.
> 
> SB is one of the only products out there that refuses to work with any
> other software.
> 
> yes, its open source, its free, its cross platform.  but that doesn't
> mean much to me if i don't like using it b/c it sucks in various ways.
> 
> i think a lot more people, even non techie newbies, would get a lot out
> of a SB they could use as "just another sound card" on their computer,
> that allowed them to use ANY pgm they wished with it.
> 
> 
> 
> all i want is a device driver for the OS that powers the SB.  i don't
> care if i can control it via remote or not.  i hardly think my request
> is sacriledge.
> 
> 
> 
> not realistic from a business model standpoint.
> 
> by that logic, SD shouldn't develop it at all, merely maintain what
> others do.  
> 
> 
> 
> what are you talking about?
> 
> i already said that setting up shoutcast and analog cables in my
> soundcard to give me a workaround so i can "feed" my SB is not a
> solution i'm interested in, as it defeats the sonic purpose and is
> inelegant to say the least.
> 
> 
> 
> straw man, not my argument.
> 
> 
> 
> actually, windows allows you to run more than one "sound device."  you
> can route "system sounds" and so on, to one device, and all your music
> and so on, to another device, (presumably the one where your stereo
> is).
> 
> i'm not sure what u mean by having the xp machine serve out the stream
> on a virtual audio device.
> 
> are you saying that if i want to run winamp, i should also run
> shoutcast, have it encode whatever winamp is doing, (via line in i
> suppose) and serve it out re-encoded?
> 
> that may work for winamp, but its not a good solution.
> 
> 
> 
> in my case, DRM has nothing to do with anything i'm doing.  i make my
> own mp3s and listen to mp3 streams.
> 
> i don't think that this should preclude the development of a windows
> driver for SB, to replace SS as the only method of using a SB.

Regardless of whether you have a point or not, all of your posts have
been hopelessly OT on this thread. Rather than hijack a thread, start a
new one.

This thread was supposed to be for people introducing themselves,
NOTHING ELSE.

Really, seriously, start another thread. This is NOT the place.


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