plympton wrote:
> Pat Farrell;223701 Wrote: 
>> Yeah, at times I wish the name was still SlimDevices. The simple answer
>> to "why no buttons" is "because its a slim device"
> 
> Well, I hate to say this, but then they should have done what Tivo did
> - make the volume keys programmable (and the power key) so that it
> could control the receiver directly. 

The TiVo is not close to a slim device. It has a full blown Linux OS in 
it. Different philosophy. Its got a hard disk and all sorts of stuff.

Not clearly better or worse, but not really comparable.

And sadly, Tivo is not a great example of success in mass market 
consumer electronics. I've known folks who have loved them for seven or 
eight years, but lots of folks were very slow to understand why 
timeshifting is cool. As soon as Tivo got some traction, the cable 
company set-top boxes swipped half or more of their market.

Today's news is quoting Vint Cerf that "TV is dead" and replaced by the 
Internet. So it is likely that Tivo was a great idea that didn't work as 
a business.


> Take a gander at, "The Design of Everyday Things".  The jist is that a
> device that outputs should have control of the output on the device,
> not (just) on an another device.  Since there's no "stop" function
> (per-se) on the Squeezebox, it just makes sense to have
> Volume+/-/Mute/Off somewhere on the device.

Perhaps, but again, I never touch mine. I've got three SqueezeBoxes and 
a Transporter.


> Ultimately, you should probably be able to dock the remote so that you
> have the choice of device controls -or- remote controls, but that's a
> design exercise for later....

Ultimately, the SqueezeBox should be built into your Receiver or amp.
Like a CableCard or so.

And ultimately, I don't want to buy and rip CDs to put into a 
SlimServer, I want to rent music that I like.
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