Philip Meyer;290932 Wrote: > > > > >Please, please, please can the issue of which tags, which version of > >tags etc but put aside for one thread. > > > I'm afraid not - it's kind of fundamental. Whilst a user may not want > to care about tags, if music doesn't have tags, they can't really hope > for songs to appear in the library 100% how they expect. If some tags > are set (automatically when you rip them), music may appear reasonably > well in a library, but may need some tailoring to be perfect for how > *you* want them to appear. This is likely to be the case for your > problem. > > It's likely that you > > >Can you please consider the users' perspective we don't care if the > tag is Band, AlbumArtist or what ever. > > > >From a users' perspective, you must appreciate that you need to set > something in your tags for it to look correct in your library. If you > don't then you shouldn't care if it doesn't work 100% how you want it. > > >The fact remains that stated way of working: > >-if the album is natural compilation multiple authors and there is > >album artist it is listed under album artist. > > > I don't quite understand what you mean in that sentence. > > The album is deemed to be a compilation album if not all of the artists > on all songs are the same, and thus will appear as album artist="Various > Artists". > > >Irrespective of whether this is Band tag, ALBUMARTIST it doesn't > >matter, because this functionality is still broken! > > > Don't understand what you mean. > > >Such an Album is still found under: Home->Artists->Various Artists > >(albeit listed as by the album artist). > If you are looking in Home > Artists > Various Artists, all albums > listed in there are by album artist = Various Artists. You won't see > any album artists within Various Artists. > > >And it is not listed under Home->Artists->album artist. Where it is > wanted. > > > Then fix your tags! No other music library software that I have used > will interpret this correctly either. In fact, most other software > wouldn't let you have multiple artists. You must have tagged that song > specifically to have two performing artists, so you must already know > something about tagging. If you'd not set the guest artist, the album > would have been detected with album artist = "My Favourite Band". > > Actually, I suspect that you haven't actually defined two artists on > the song, but one artist called something like "My Favourite Band and > Guest Artist". > > >For example: > >My Favourite Band, creates an album called "Debut", all tracks are by > >"My Favourite Band", the album by "My Favourite Band", but the last > >track they are joined by "Guest Artist" > > > That last track makes the software think that the album is a > compilation album, because the last song isn't by the same artists as > all of the other songs. That is why you need to set an albumartist > tag. The scanner doesn't second-guess how you want that album to > appear. > > >This is the real problem, not the internal representation of the > band's name. > This is your problem, caused by the information in your song tags. > > Phil
Mine work the same as his does. I always us albumartist and I leave the artist as the actual performer. I like this because in most programs this will show who is actually performing in the now playing list. But in Squeeze db a few of them or put in the Various Artist section because of one or two guest artists. There is no compilation tag set and the Albumartist is not set as Various Artist but as the Performer who's album it is. I do actually tag albums that are all various artists as Various Artist in the albumartist tag, but with others it makes no sense to call the artist Various Artist because of a song or two by a guest. I'd like to have the album grouped with the main artists albums. I'm not losing my mind over this but I'm telling you it's not a problem with my tags but with the way the Squeeze server deals with it. I think the presence of an album artist tag should override the compilation setup they now have. If there isn't a albumartist tag use the current method , if there is use the tag. Oh and I'm really not sure how you can tell someone it's automatically their fault when you haven't seen their tags. Also many other programs allow you to have multiple artists as in an artist and album artist. I have Mediamonkey automatically move and keep all my music by album artist. Db poweramp rips to my collection by album artist and in all my players the artist tag shows who is performing in any givin song. It just makes sense to organize this way, it keeps your albums in the right folder and shows the current performer on playback. But I also know it's very confusing as to standards and individual programs interpretations. I'm not losing my mind over this, but it would be nice to have it all laid out so a person can try to adapt if possible. -- Nonreality *-If the rule you followed brought you to this, what good is the rule.-* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Nonreality's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46093 _______________________________________________ discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
