On 05/18/2016 05:51 PM, Bryan Richter wrote:
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:13:34PM -0600, Peter Harpending wrote:
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 10:21:23AM -0700, Bryan Richter wrote:
>>> Website work is blocked on taking care of the blog, so let's do that.
>>> We have to make some decisions, but first we need to agree on what
>>> purpose we are trying to achieve.
>>>
>>> To frame the "purpose" discussion, I'll pose the first question: Where
>>> does the blog live? The decision flowchart starts with:
>>>
>>>     1. Blog lives on the main site
>>>     2. Blog lives somewhere else
>>>
>>> Which shall it be?
>>>
>>> But let's not simply answer that question. Let's start by
>>> understanding why we have a blog, and figure out what we need to make
>>> it a success. From there, it should be easier to agree on this
>>> decision, and the ones that follow.
>>>
>>> Here's my brainstorm for the blog's purpose:
>>>
>>>     1. Show signs of life
>>>     2. Keep people engaged
>>>     3. Talk about problems we're facing
>>>     4. Talk about progress we've made
>>>     5. Add more content to the Internets, making it easier for people
>>>        to find us in searches
>> If the blog doesn't need comments, I could very easily throw together a site
>> using Hakyll <https://www.jaspervdj.be/hakyll/>, and post it somewhere. 
>>
>> Advantages:
>>
>> * Content is managed and deployed using git.
>> * It's Haskell, so any of our devs can tweak the site generation.
>> * The Hakyll site can easily generate static content, including RSS/Atom 
>> feeds,
>>   uniform styling, etc.
>> * Static sites are easy to maintain and deploy
>> * Can be hosted cheaply, and independently from the main Snowdrift server. (I
>>   can do site administration if need be).
>>
>> Disadvantages:
>>
>> * Can't handle form input, which would include comments or maybe surveys.
> A lot of the advantages you list are wrapped up in the ease of
> self-hosting. That masks the biggest disadvantage, which is that it
> requires self-hosting.
>
> I understand Hakyll's appeal, but my primary concern is focusing our
> development efforts on the Snowdrift mechanism, even if it means
> relying on some bloated javascript for non-core technology*. That means
> I am much more interested in Ghost's potential.
>
> Another disadvantage is that Hakyll is only easy for programmers. It's
> specifically designed for them. That is contrary to Snowdrift's
> principles. One does not need to be a programmer to write an article
> for the Snowdrift blog.
>
> I'm not ruling it out. If we are forced to self-host, it might still
> be the best choice.
>
> Let's keep exploring our options.
>
> * The only reason I am working on the blog right now, at all, is
> because we have to get it taken care of before we can turn continuous
> deployment back on. I haven't pushed master to production in a long
> time, and it is making me really jumpy!
Would https://withknown.com/ be worth considering?  I'm considering
using it myself since I like the idea of the IndieWeb
(http://indiewebcamp.com/) which I learned about from Aaron - and it
seems to be by far the easiest way to do that.  There's some info about
it at http://indiewebcamp.com/Projects too.

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