I can imagine there being a market for a javascript/browser based data 
collection/spreadsheet tool. Completely portable, coupled with D3 you could get 
great graphing OOTB. And the data could well just be local.


..d


Dr David Martin
Lecturer in Bioinformatics
College of Life Sciences
University of Dundee



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From: Discuss <[email protected]> on behalf of Noam 
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To: Gabriel A. Devenyi; Tiffany Timbers; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Discuss] Excel errors.... (Tiffany Timbers)


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On Fri, Aug 26, 2016, 6:19 PM Gabriel A. Devenyi 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
LibreOffice also has a database tool
https://www.libreoffice.org/discover/base/

On Fri, Aug 26, 2016, 18:16 Tiffany Timbers 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Emily Jane asked a good question about what are the other options, aside from 
Excel, Libre Office, or text editors as a means for data entry.

Forms, whose output can later be accessed as tabular data (e.g., CSV), are a 
solution I have used and liked. Proprietary database software, such as 
Filemaker Pro exists, and from my experience, is fairly user friendly. For open 
source options, I would use Google forms, or if you want an option that doesn’t 
have to be hosted on the web, you could try out Dean Attali’s shinyforms R 
package (works, but is still under development) [1].

I especially like forms for data entry, as you can more easily constrain how 
the data gets entered (predefined columns, drop-down menus with limited 
options, etc), compared to the free-for-all that exists with a spreadsheet.

I’d love to hear other’s favourite tools and opinions on this topic.

Cheers,
Tiffany

[1] https://github.com/daattali/shinyforms

Tiffany Timbers
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>




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Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 15:02:06 -0700
From: Emily Jane McTavish <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: Software Carpentry Discussion
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Subject: Re: [Discuss] Excel errors....
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Great points.

I have a question about alternatives to excel for data input.

Following this paper I have seen a lot of 'never use Excel' tweets, but
that seems to be ignoring a key step in real world data analysis
pipelines. If data is not coming straight off a machine, such as in
ecological surveys, behavioral experiments, meta-analyses of gene names,
etc., those data need to be put into a tabular, machine readable, format
(e.g. CSV) somehow. I don't think anyone is recommending using a text
editor to do that.
Libre office calc and google sheets have many of the same autoformat
issues as Excel. (although that may be fixed in new versions of libre
office?)

I think when people say 'don't use excel', they often mean 'for
analysis', or 'for statistics'. But this paper demonstrates it is
problematic for even simple data input. I know what to recommend as
alternatives in the former cases, but not for the latter. Am I missing
good alternative options here?


Thanks,
Emily Jane

--
Emily Jane McTavish
Assistant Professor
School of Natural Sciences
University of California, Merced
5200 N. Lake Rd, Merced CA 95343
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>




On 08/26/2016 02:42 PM, Steven Haddock wrote:
I was going to post that article too, but I dug into it (read the paper), and 
it is really just conversion of gene names (like SEPT5) in supplementary files. 
That was reported long ago as affecting some quantifications, but I would call 
it analytical errors as we have seen in the past. A bit of a tempest in a 
teapot, perhaps.

Ironic twist, the paper provides a supplementary file listing all the gene-name 
errors they found, posted as an Excel file.

-Steve

On Aug 26, 2016, at 14:26 , Maxime Boissonneault 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
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Hi everyone,
Some interesting content to use about how to not do science correctly with a 
computer....
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/08/26/an-alarming-number-of-scientific-papers-contain-excel-errors/


Maxime Boissonneault
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