Hello,

My approach is quite opposite to Luke's.

I mostly do exploratory "data analysis at an individual
researcher/team level" precisely.  I use knitr/R Markdown dynamic
reports (think Jupyter notebooks, for all the Pythonistas out there).

At this (exploratory) stage, I don't do testing per se.  But I *need*
to have some sanity checks along the way!  So I have a few
`expect_true()`, `expect_that()`, etc. (from the `testthat` package)
here and there.  It's not testing, it doesn't really cover much, but I
need to be a little defensive so that I can trust what's being
computed...

I know that `testthat` is intended for unit testing but, you know, I
live in the Hadleyverse. :)

Cheers,
Marianne

On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 1:50 PM, Luke Johnston <[email protected]> wrote:
> I agree with Naupaka that it is a bit advanced. However, the package
> `testthat` is not for defensive programming per se, but for unit tests. For
> defensive programming specifically there is the `assertive` and `assertr`
> packages. However, unlike Python, the facilities for defensive programming
> are not as well developed in R and are a bit unwieldy. Considering
> programming is not often done in R for a larger user base but rather for
> data analysis at a individual researcher/team level, I don't think it is
> worthwhile to add too much/anything to the defensive programming for R. The
> lessons are packed enough as it is.
>
> In addition to that, most people coming to the R workshops are looking to
> learn about data and statistical analysis. Defensive programming is
> something they would likely never use. I've used R for several years and
> develop a few packages and even I very rarely use these defensive
> facilities.
>
> Just my two cents.
>
> Luke
>
>
> On 2016-09-30 12:52 PM, Naupaka Zimmerman wrote:
>
> Hi Raniere -
>
> I think it isn't a part of the materials because it's a bit advanced for the
> usual audience level. But that's not to say it wouldn't be nice to have. I
> imagine such a lesson could intro the base assertion functions like
> stopifnot() and also Hadley's testthat package. PRs welcome!
>
> Best,
> Naupaka
>
> On 30 Sep 2016, at 8:19, Raniere Silva wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> on our Programming with Python,
> http://swcarpentry.github.io/python-novice-inflammation/08-defensive/,
> we have a "Defensive Programming" section.
> This section is missing on the R lesson.
> Any experience R instructor can let me know why?
> And if you have your "translation" of that lesson in R
> could you send me a copy of it?
> Cheers,
> Raniere
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