Thanks Titus and Greg. Interesting questions.

If you haven't seen it yet, Philip Guo has a great post about designing for 
learning at scale: 
https://cacm.acm.org/blogs/blog-cacm/219967-learning-programming-at-scale/fulltext
 
<https://cacm.acm.org/blogs/blog-cacm/219967-learning-programming-at-scale/fulltext>

Warmly,

Carol

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> On Feb 7, 2018, at 8:39 AM, C. Titus Brown <ctbr...@ucdavis.edu> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Feb 07, 2018 at 06:22:29AM -0500, Greg Wilson wrote:
> 
>> https://computinged.wordpress.com/2018/02/05/the-purpose-of-education-is-hope-contrasting-the-lost-einsteins-and-kennett-missouri/
>>  
>> is another great blog post from Mark Guzdial about the different goals  
>> for computing education that I hope will be of interest to Carpentry  
>> folk: are we trying to create sports champions, or provide public health?
> 
> Hi Greg,
> 
> interesting post!
> 
> Within the framework of the Carpentries thus far, I've always understood
> us as targeting researchers. That's actually in the DC Mission Statement:
> 
> http://www.datacarpentry.org/mission/
> 
> So in a very explicit sense we are not targeting *everyone*.  Which is
> probably good, because that would be even harder.
> 
> But I definitely see this community targeting broad computational literacy
> within the research community - generally the lessons and training are not
> targeted only at people who are looking at faculty careers, but rather
> aim at teaching current practitioners, e.g. grad students, with the aim of
> giving them skills that they can use in whatever careers they pursue.
> 
> To align with the metaphor, I would say that maybe we are focused on
> teaching high school and collegiate athletics, which is broader than
> "sports champions" while including some of the future champions; but
> not so broad as to include everyone, i.e. not "public health." That having
> been said, the ripple effect of teaching a good large chunk of people should
> be pretty significant... 
> 
> best,
> --titus
> -- 
> C. Titus Brown, ctbr...@ucdavis.edu
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