On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 03:36:11PM -0400, Luke S Crawford spake thusly:
> live migration (and failover) both require shared storage.  (failover
> requires doubling your other compute resources as well)  which usually

Not necessarily. I have failover and zero SPOF with a cluster of 5
machines doing virtualization with a hot spare worth of extra
capacity. The more machines you run in the cluster the lower your
overall percentage of unused capacity (economies of scale apply).

> what they had.  I also think their decision to go with local
> disk (thus you can't use live migration)  was probably 
> a good one, considering the choices.)

Amazon's model is all about "if a machine catches fire, we throw it
away, you deal with the redundancy in your application".

> That's the other problem, owning is *much* cheaper than renting.  
> When I say this, most people point at the 'sysadmin time' thing, 
> which is expensive, but the only part of sysadmin time that 
> 'the cloud' covers is hardware installation and replacement,

Yep. I have heard people talk about wanting to get out of the hardware
owning business and move to managed hardware or cloud but they still
end up paying at least as much except now they have opportunities for
fingerpointing delaying resolution as well (see bitbucket's recent
Amazon outage).

-- 
Tracy Reed
http://tracyreed.org

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