LOL!!

You almost made me spray beer out my nose.  :-)


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Phil Pennock
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 6:13 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [lopsa-discuss] IPv6 and NAT
> 
> On 2010-04-19 at 07:25 -0400, Edward Ned Harvey wrote:
> > At present, the printer and toaster are safe from the Internet
> because they
> > are not reachable from the internet.  There's not a lot of reason for
> the
> > toaster to support IPv6, but even if it does, there's nothing forcing
> it to
> > take an internet routable IPv6 address.
> 
> What, you don't want to have a cloud-based Twitter aggregation service
> source the day's dominant image memes to set them as the patterns to
> toast into your bread each morning?
> 
> /me runs
> 
> Hrm, money opportunity there, if you don't make the choice of remote
> image provider choosable by the purchaser.  Themed toasters, updating
> from the Net.  Star Wars, Disney ... oh yes, way to get those toaster
> sales up.  Suddenly, I'm worried this might actually happen.  RAM is
> cheap, can always make sure that 14 days worth of images are downloaded
> each time, to ride out connectivity glitches, but that would just give
> a
> new meaning to the term "stale toast".
> 
> > If it did support IPv6, the use case is pretty ... uncommon ... but
> still
> > nice to know you could if you want to.  If you wanted to, check your
> ink
> > levels from your mobile device while you're at Staples looking at a
> good
> > deal on ink.  Or whatever.
> 
> In Japan, the big printer/photocopier vendors, who do the usual "rent
> out the equipment on service contracts" thing are somewhat worried
> about
> their ability to do remote diagnostics on equipment once multiple
> layers
> of NAT become common.  Thus the big push there which has seen the big
> office electronics equipment manufacturers get behind IPv6 and promote
> it, with certification systems for equipment and vendors, etc.
> 
> Eg, this article from *2006* about Panasonic having 40 IPv6-capable
> office products:
>   http://www.tmcnet.com/news/2006/02/02/1336933.htm
> 
> And the better non-Japanese companies are making sure they're not left
> behind.
> 
> Some quick plugging of manufacturer names into
>   search_engine($manufacturer IPv6 printers)
> confirms Panasonic, HP, Toshiba, Canon, Lexmark & Samsung all support
> IPv6 on at least some models.  This was a non-exhaustive cursory glance
> through some results.
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