I notice the cursor jumping in AOL when I am looking at my mail, but not really withanything else. It did weird things when my Sister would try to help me by using the mouse also. I thought that maybe it had somethingto do with Safari and AOL, but I guess not. I previously used OutSpoken and even withthe problems that I have had with Voiceover, I like it a lot better. I am able to do things with Voiceover that I could never do with OutSpoken.
Peggy

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From: John Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by the blind <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 21:07:28 -0600
Subject: Re: VO cursor jumping in 10.4.4?

This bug happened a long time ago and was reported and fixed but it seems from your email that it poped back up. By the way it is a VO bug related to safari. If you turn off VO it doesnt happen but with VO on if one scrolls down a page in safari using the mouse with a sighted person, the safari page will suddenly jump back to the top but it will not happen if VO is turned off so it is not VO commands related but some interaction between the VO program and the Safari program that happend even if one is only using the mouse in a sighted way. Vickie Weir 
 
Travis Siegel wrote: 
 
> I too have experienced this behavior. There is one site that used to > behave just fine, but now everytime I get to a certain place on the > page, vo jumps back to the top, and (as you said) out of the html > entirely on occasion. This is very anoying, and I haven't a clue > what causes it, since it doesn't do this with other sites <sigh> > Perhaps, it's just something in the html code. I'll examine it > later, and see if I can replicate the behavior by copying the > offending html code into a new document. This might help to narrow > down the misbehaving bits of html/xml code.  > And, yes, you can report bugs from the adc system. Just log in (you > can report bugs even with the free membership) and go to the bug > reporting section, and follow the prompts. I've got an open bug now > about safari and pdf files. They're quite prompt in answering, if > there's something you didn't include with the bug report. I'll see > how quick they are in responding when all parts are present, as I > just added the last piece last week. 
> On Jan 15, 2006, at 12:10 PM, Nolan Darilek wrote: 
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>> Apologies if this has already been discussed. Keeping up with mail
here can be quite a challenge at times. 
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>> Wondering if anyone else has experienced this? Since upgrading to >> 10.4.4, I've had a world of issues browsing pages with the VO >> cursor. I typically browse to the page element I want, then use VO >> controls to click it (as opposed to tabbing.) On the day that I >> upgraded, I noticed that interacting with some groups on some >> websites became a royal pain in the ass. Specifically, until >> upgrading I was thrilled that microsoft outlook web access was far >> more accessible under Safari than it was under windows. Now, though, >> I interact with the HTML area, try interacting with the second frame >> and the VO cursor jumps out of the HTML area entirely. I've also >> noticed this same behavior on livejournal.com comment pages. I >> haven't had this problem before, but now it makes doing quite a few >> tasks difficult. 
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>> Has anyone else experienced this? I've been using VO since Tiger was >> released, so this very much is not a case of a newbie who doesn't >> know what he's doing, or someone who wasn't using the applications >> as they were intended. I hate to fuel the fires of discontent, but >> I'm a tad upset that sanctioned upgrades can break VoiceOver access >> in such a way as to render certain tasks nearly impossible, and >> there has been no response to my 3-4 quite well- thought-out pieces >> of feedback to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll stop ranting on this >> subject before I get too carried away; I'm just frustrated that a >> task that I must accomplish went from quite workable to undoable, >> and am wondering if I'm alone in experiencing this issue. Is there a >> place where I can actually file bugs with Apple, maybe something >> through ADC? I'm beginning to wonder if the numerous issues I've >> sent email about aren't being addressed because they aren't being >> fed through proper channels, a BTS of some sort perhaps. 
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