Well I don't have the server version and probably no reason to get
it, but well would be something fun to muck about with, but probably
not worth the cost. I could perhaps use something from Fink if I can
figure out why Fink is broken. Damndest thing why Fink is busted.
Scott
On Feb 20, 2006, at 2:38 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:
I've found no way to get mail to retrieve it's messages from /var/
mail (linked to /var/spool/mail) and I don't think you can. The
closest I've gotten is to turn on the mail server, give it a name
just like the one you're using on your account, then have mail
retrieve mail from your local machine as if it were a remote
server. If you don't have the server version of osx though, this
isn't possible. Of course, you can use mail (from terminal) to
read /var/spool/mail, or install pine and use that. Vo won't work
well in this case, but it does work after a fashion. That's why
I'm getting me a braille display. I plan to work braille support
into osx, probably via having the usb driver talk to the usability
features, and feed what is sent to the visual mode of vo to the
braille display (I don't know what it's called, there's a word for
it) but I'm talking about the visual representation of what vo is
speaking, apparently there's a box in the corner of the screen that
(if turned on) displays what vo is speaking. I see no reason why
this can't be intercepted, and sent to the braille display. Of
course, me being the individual I am, and with six million other
little tasks I'd like to accomplish, this won't be overnight, but I
will work on it. No clue if anything will come of it or not, but
assuming something does, I'll be more than willing to share.
BTW I've purchased a used navigator 80. (well, it's someone else's
version of the navigator 80, it's called something else, but I
can't remember what at the moment) It should be here this week, so
I can begin experimenting.
On Feb 20, 2006, at 11:54 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
Hello, your on the right track and yes I understand Mail will
retrieve mail while Mail is running. I guess what I was curious
about is there is Mail from whithin the gui and Mail from within
Terminal and they both are different. As a matter of fact, Mail in
Terminal will read /var/spool/mail, but Mail from within the gui
or whatever you want to call it does not. I guess what I was
getting at is first how does Mail, (gui) and Mail, (shell) differ,
can you use something like Fetchmail to retrieve mail if Mail
(gui) isn't running and feed that to Mail (gui), and also is it
possible to have Mail (gui) read /var/spool/mail for local
messages that the system might send root/administrator or a local
user. This is confusing I realize, but so is how Apple is using
Mail (gui). I come from Linux where mail is mail regardless
because all mail goes into /var/spool/mail and is read from there
by whatever mua your using, i.e. Mutt, Pine, etc. Obviously Mail
is more like oh geez I hate to use this as an example, but Outlook
is the best thing that comes to mind. I wonder if you can change
the behavior of Mail (gui) to be more like Mail (shell), but me
thinks probably not.
tnx
Scott
On Feb 20, 2006, at 10:24 AM, Travis Siegel wrote:
Mail by default checks all pop servers every 5 minutes. Yoou can
of course change this, but if you're only looking to pull the
mail into your local inbox, then just leave mail running and it
will do it. On the other hand, if you're looking to grab
multiple accounts, and drop them into /var/spool/mail, and then
use local accounts to retrieve mail from your box using your box
as a server, then you'll need to use something like fetchpop (the
program you were talking about) or simply set your domain (if you
have one) to dump mail on your box (if you have a static ip)
Otherwise, I don't know what you want. If these suggestions
don't answer your question, then be more specific as to what
you're trying to do, and perhaps I can elaborate more. You can
run a mac server, which does support mail. but again, it depends
on what you're trying to do.
