Hi,

I think the main issue here is - is there any reason he can't use the
keyboard?  There is a tutor for the keyboard on the Mac, and I firmly
believe he would get a lot more out of the system by using the keyboard
rather than a voice.  Many of us don't use the dictation system
precicely because they are developed for lazy sighties rather than us
blinks.  There are bespoke systems for blind, but not for the Mac and
they are more expensive than standard systems.

Andrew.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Burgoyne
Sent: 06 March 2006 20:01
To: [email protected]
Subject: Ilisten and reading mail voice only method

Hi, Im a sighted guy helping my blind uncle to get some use out of  
his mac,
I went to the states and bought a copy of Ilisten for him, he already  
has viavoice...
but weve found it has trouble dictating into anything other than its  
own text editor,
weve just managed to have him read and dictate a mail back all with  
his voice.
you guys seem to be doing ok... from reading these digest mails...
maybe weve missed all the really basic problems you guys would have  
reported here...
but we are still pretty much at square one.

heres how we did it for your information.
ive set up Ilisten to start on login for my uncle.. and start in  
command mode.. with the mic on..
(Ilisten is pretty much not blind centric... more for lazy sighted  
people... so unfortunately ive had to help him with his set up.)
I've also set the mouse to track voiceovers cursor in the voiceover  
settings.

say; open mail (mail opens)
say; tab (voiceover cursor moves from delete to search)
say; tab (voiceover cursor moves from search to message boxes)
say; tab (voiceover cursor moves from message boxes to message table
say; arrow up or arrow down (to select message header)
say; enter (to open selected message)
the selected message will open in a new window in front
say; tab (voiceover cursor moves from delete to reply)
say; click mouse (a new reply message window opens)
say; switch to dictation mode (the cursor should now be at the top of  
the message text field)
you can then dictate your message
say; click mouse (the cursor and mouse are on send, the message will  
be sent)

I really hope this helps some of you.
this is the sort of information my uncle would like to be reading here.
as we crack on Ill post up more of our findings.

of course, Ive had to help my Uncle train his voice, by pausing the  
training sessions and reading out the storys it asks you to read. I  
can recommend doing this if you can.
If anyone else has any similar knowledge or can recount it in this  
form we would be very grateful
or if anyone has any other methods, please post them if you can
in our limited experience Ilisten gives better allround performance  
than viavoice.
best wishes and good luck,
Peter
p.s. maybe next time this will be posted without any sighted assistance.




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