I’m afraid that in general, I don’t se that we have progressed nearly as far as 
some think we have in terms of accessibility.  While I never really used 
computers, Mac or PC’s, with dos based speech, I have heard that it was far 
better.  I do know that the invent of GUI interfaces and the like has 
complicated this level of accessibility.

I also feel that we as blind and low vision users are an after thought and even 
feel that computer companies often view us as obstacles to progress.  Months 
ago I was following some of the discussion around the changes Microsoft is 
making in Windows Vista and with its Office product.  It sure sounded like 
these changes were going to further complicate accessibility.  Further, even 
our good friends at Apple one minute push accessibility but then release 
products like iWork06 where parts of the program are accessible and then you 
can’t do simple things like write or edit text.  

Even in other areas we continue to be ignored as blind folks.  Just this week 
the city of Phoenix passed several bond proposals that will be used to improve 
the quality of life here in the city.  One project involves the city parks and 
recreation department partnering with the local center for independent living 
to build an accessible fitness center.  However, when I reviewed the list of 
planned activities and equipment, everything listed was for those who use 
chairs.  Nothing about making the machines accessible to blind users.  Nothing 
about activities involving blind folks.  The point is that even among our 
brothers and sisters in the disability community, when we talk accessibility 
we’ve not moved beyond ramps and curb cuts.  I think this is what bothers me 
the most.  The blindness organizations have done some things but probably most 
obvious is that as blind folks we’ve been segmented off in to our own little 
group.  And then, our little blind group is further divided because consumer 
organizations are too busy pissing and moaning at one another over 
philosophical differences.  Just imagine what we could do if we as blind people 
could get our crap together, stop being our own little community and stop being 
our own organizations.  Just think what could happen if we as a disability 
community could recognize our collective needs and be working together.  About 
the only time we can manage to do that is when cuts to vocational rehab are 
proposed.  Sorry reason to gather together on an issue if you ask me.

Alas, I’ve gone far afield on my little rant here.  Sorry!

I do believe though that the potential is there to have a better quality of 
life and further accessibility to many things in the future.  This because 
individuals who are aging are loosing their vision at an alarming rate.  These 
are people who have worked hard and been successful all of their lives.  I 
don’t think that these folks in the baby-boomer generation are just going to 
decide that life and independence are lost because they begin loosing their 
vision.  So, I think that there will continue to be increased demand for 
products and services to increase in accessibility.  I also think that more 
products using voice recognition and speech will continue to come on the market 
and this can be a good thing for us.




> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: 2006/03/17 Fri AM 10:11:03 EST
> To: General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by the
>       blind <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: where are we at twenty years later?
> 
> 
> We are behind the computer curve as an after thought.  We have not reached
> in the mac and ms worlds the level of access and power and flexibility and
> user control of screen readers that was possible 15 years ago in dos.  Most
> blind folk are unaware of this because most have become computer users in a
> windows world and are thrilled that their computer speaks at all, not
> realizing that the gui ms and mac based speech is second and even third
> best when it works at all.
> 
> We have let the national blind groups to do a song and dance on us and
> neglect leadership on speech access and making excuses why it is so.
> There is no blind vision among them as to what access is in all aspects of
> life and most particular in technology.  As a thumbnail neasure, almost
> universal captioning on tv and equally universal wheelchair access to all
> public places puts to shame the disarray and third best even if it exists
> use of technology we have.
> 
>                                XB
>                                 IC|XC
> 
> 
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