On Mar 17, 2006, at 10:32 AM, Travis Siegel wrote:

Well, let me see.
In 1986 I couldn't write a document on the computer, and 2 minutes later hold it in my hand as a braille document. I can today.

Actually, I could in 1986 because I had access to a bbraille embosser. Today, I can't--and don't, in that order. (The embosser was even halfway decent: the Versapoint...) Although, prices have fallen somewhat...though, IMO, not enough.

In 1986 I couldn't talk to teachers, resellers, solution providers, and even school admissions officers online. Today I can (and do on a regular basis)

No argument there. Even Fidonet BBS's were only for the real computer enthusiasts, certainly not commonplace.

In 1986 there wasn't an intersection in the country I could cross w/ o having to worry about cars causing problems. Today, because of audible cross walk signals, there's actually some places where we *know* there's no problem, because the signals tell us so, instead of depending on the traffic to do the right thing.

Sorry, you've lost me on this one. If an idiot driver disobeys the traffic laws and hits you as a pedestrian, you're still going to lose and could potentially still be just as dead. Audible traffic signals are far from a solution to the traffic problems (which, IMO, are actually worse than they were in 1986), pedestrians in general have it worse, lights are shorter, traffic patterns are more horrible, and audible traffic signals have just as much of a potential to be poorly synchronized with the actual traffic light and can still be misread.

In 1986, I had to take someone into the voting booth with me if I wanted to exercise my right to vote. Today there's actually *some* places where thhis isn't necessary.

True. I hope we get some here in Pennsylvania.

In 1986, MAC machines were a mystery, because every single one of them was different, and there was no guarantee that even ones that looked similar had similar screens. Today there's not only braille on the keypads of most machines (not that it was necessary) but some of them actually talk to walk us through the process of using the machine unaided.

But the ones that don't talk are still just as mysterious and different from each other. Finding the ones that *do* talk isn't necessarily a cakewalk either. I'm fortunate to have a bank that has a talking machine...actually, I think all of National City's machines talk now, and it's fantastic! But if you need to use a non-talking one, it's still a mystery.

In 1986 if I wanted an assignment from a teacher in accessible format, it meant getting a copy in advance, taking it to my itenerate teacher, her passing it off to a braille person, that person brailling it (or recording it if it lended itself to that format) Giving it back to the itenerate teacher, then finally it coming back to me in a format I could use. This process often took days or sometimes even weeks. Today I simply ask the teacher for a copy, they hand me a disk, or email a document, and poof, I can now read my assignment all by myself.

Heck, that process was still true for me about nine years ago! Of course, will you actually get the assignment from the teacher in that way? Maybe. Probablyk, in most cases, I expect. :)



There's hundreds of little improvements that like it or not are based on technology. You say you weren't asking about technology, but I say that technology is the very thing that makes it all possible. You ask what's changed? I say nearly everything. In 1986, I couldn't do half the things I do now independantly, and today it's all a mater of routine. If you don't consider that progress, then I guess, then we've got *very* different definitions of what constitutes progress.

Sure, we have progress, and sometimes even in great directions. On the other hand, has it all been good? I'd submit that it hasn't...although I'd also say I wouldn't go back, because enough good progress has been made that the steps backwards (i.e. worse traffic patterns, graphical Turing tests, need I go on?) are things I guess I can live with until someone gets smart and figures a better way.







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