Yep, I'll happily confirm what Travis mentions regarding volunteering his expertise. He's constructive and generous that way. In our case, we're still deciding how to split resources between the current katieplayer version and the forthcoming Cocoa version - so we're not sure yet what and how we might be able to parcel out various pieces (though we do tend to work in a modular fashion...so that helps). Further, there are sometimes practical issues/obstacles/ incompatibilities related to chosen development environments and languages, bringing a new person into an effort, etc. All that being said, I've not forgotten Travis' offer and It's very likely we'll find areas where we really need help and any practical obstacles are trumped by the experience and expertise Travis obviously brings. We'll get there.

I suspect you'll find similar situations with other developers. In fact, I'd guess some efforts would be a good deal more strict in their outlook (with the strictest being [I'd argue necessarily] the mother ship i.e. Apple). There are issues of liability, protection of intellectual property, etc. We might not like to think about those things but they matter (and probably should matter) to most businesses (and that includes some of the non-profit businesses which serve the blind community). Finally, there's a whole other discussion to be had regarding open source vs. closed/proprietary efforts, etc., etc...but that would be outside the scope of this discussion and probably way off-topic for this list.

Joe

On Mar 17, 2006, at 8:40 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:

I also believe in doing it right the first time. Only in this case, I ask you one question. If you were deaf blind, and had to use braille to access your computer, would you want vo type feedback, or would you want information that was in addition to what vo gives out, and thus nearly completely useless to you as a deaf blind user? I'm not deaf blind, but I know what my answer would be.

And as for working separately instead of together, talk to apple, katie player, folks, and various share/freeware authors about how I've offered to work with them or indeed tried to go to work for them to make the programs accessible/more usable. Put that together with the fact that I'm still working alone, then you tell me why it doesn't happen.
On Mar 17, 2006, at 3:40 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:

I don't believe in doing quick put-ups. I believe in doing it right in the first place. The fact that people on this list continually ignore suggestions to work with the brltty team and want to work on their own is puzzling and disappointing to me.

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Cheryl
"Where your treasure is,
there will your heart be also".










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