Unfortunately, the reality is, and it's not organization specific
entirely, is that there are a lot of people who are trashing Apple and the
Mac for, let's just say, not necessarily honest reasons.  Again, as much as
this is not meant to bash anyone, but I have had conversations with people
within the NFB and I can tell you that the resistance and lack of interest
is driven by a motivation other than intellectual experience or the like.
This is a reality of politics and money, folks, and it's not a reflection of
the integrity of any organization overall.  As others have pointed out, the
same sort of things are occurring with ACB members, but I can also tell you
that the ACB has been far more accepting and fair about VO and the Mac than
the NFB has been.  One cannot deny the relationship Freedom Scientific and
other Windows oriented vendors do have with the blindness organizations and
the roles that it plays. You're fooling yourself if you are going to chalk
this off strictly as a bias towards any organization, as I am  not a card
carrying member for neither NFB  nor ACB.  I only call it as I hear it, and
I'm sorry if it offends anyone.

Take Care



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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LARRY WANGER
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 12:18 PM
To: General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS Xby the
blind
Subject: Re: Enough Is Enough

I think that the point isn't just to bash the NFB as I also know of several
who are members of the other blindness organization who have been less than
friendly or honest for that matter about VO.  I think its easy to get off
track though and start making side comments about things.  The original
point of the discussion though as I saw it was an NFB article about VO.  I
think being able to discuss that is important.


Check out my blog at http://lsw999.blogspot.com/

Larry Wanger
----- Original Message -----
From: "Beth Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 8:34 AM
Subject: Enough Is Enough


> Hi.  Could you please take your discussion of differences with the NFB to 
> another list?  I subscribed to this list to get information about the Mac,

> and that's not what I've been getting lately.  I understand that you're 
> impatient.  So am I, believe me.  I don't have the technical knowledge and

> skills that many of you have, and I wish the Apple people would make some 
> improvements.  Bashing the NFB, however, isn't going to improve the 
> situation.  Please, please, let's change the subject and move on.  Thank 
> you very much.
>
> Beth Wright
> 



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