Joe, it shouldn't speak the entire screen over everytime the screen
is updated, that wouldn't be fun. The two greatest problems I see
from Terminal as is are the following. Note these are just my
experiences.
1. Terminal doesn't speak any output, you have to use the VO keys to
navigate.
2. You will randomly get verbal feedback from VO when typing which
makes using Terminal a pain.
3. If you use VO to navigate the screen, at times when doing a VO-
keys + left arrow, VO will jump back to the top of the screen and
start reading the very first line. This my friend really sucks.
4. VO really should give you the same output as any other app when in
Terminal.
That sums it up, but Apple really sould correct this. Now of course I
don't know if this is do to Terminal and VO what respect to how they
interact and maybe that's do to the nature of Terminal.
I don't know if VO simple isn't handling the screen as its different
from the rest of the gui, but whatever it is, I can get things done
in Terminal, but its a pain. Oddly enough, using apps like Nano, I
can work with it quite well, but Vim, isn't nearly as much fun. Just
my comments for whatever they are worth.
Maybe Apple should pay you for fixing their stuff.grin
Scott
On Mar 19, 2006, at 4:17 AM, Kafka's Daytime wrote:
*grin* A front end for the terminal shouldn't be too terribly hard.
So it should just speak automatically whenever new information
appears? i.e. the audible equivalent of what's happening visually?
Give me some basics on what it should do and I'll look at taking a
crack at it in the reasonably near future...even if it's just a
stopgap i.e. Apple might be looking at enhancing Terminal access
with VO and that's probably the most desirable/elegant solution.
Let me know your thoughts.
Joe
On Mar 19, 2006, at 4:11 AM, BlindTech of BlindTechs.Net wrote:
dude! You! rock!
now who gots dibs on writing a terminal app that speaks
automatically?
you got that covered too???
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On Mar 19, 2006, at 1:41 AM, Kafka's Daytime wrote:
Dear All,
I took a look at Lips today - which I know some of you have been
using regularly - with the intention of adding some of the new
features requested. Since Lips is written in AppleScript (using
AppleScript Studio) I decided, instead, to build a speech-to-
audio application in Objective-C/Cocoa. Information follows. Link
to download can be found at the end of this message.
Enjoy,
Joe
Cocoa Speech KDREV (CS-KDREV) - Convert text to audio file with
fine control over synthesized speech settings.
Cocoa Speech KDREV (CS-KDREV) is built on example code from Apple
and has the features of Lips (http://www.superpixel.ch/software/
lips/) plus additional features (and more), requested by members
of the Macvisionaries discussion list (David, Cheryl, Jane,
Scott, et al).
CS-KDREV is written in Objective-C/Cocoa and is a Universal
Application i.e. natively-compatible with both PowerPC and Intel-
based Macs.
Installing CS-KDREV
Unzip CS-KDREV and place the application anywhere on your Mac.
CS-KDREV Features
Listen to text read by any of the installed speech voices or
render text to audio file.
CS-KDREV plays the system beep when conversion to audio file is
complete.
Enjoy fine control of Speech Voice settings. Adjust speech rate,
pitch, pitch modulation and volume.
Using CS-KDREV
Quick Start
Type or paste text into the text field.
At launch, CS-KDREV defaults to the System Voice. You can select
any of the installed speech engines with the "Voice" pop up menu.
To audition text with the selected speech engine and settings,
click the "Start Speaking" button. To render text to audio file
click the "Save as File..." button. An audio file (AIFF 22.05
Mono 16 bit) will be saved at the selected location.
Additional Information
The CS-KDREV window includes two tabs: The "Voice" and
"Parameters" Tabs. The "Voice" tab is selected by default at
launch. When the Voice tab is selected, you can navigate to the
the "Voice" pop up menu and select from any of the installed
speech voices.
Click the "Parameters" tab to access additional speech settings.
In the "Parameters" pane you can adjust speech rate, pitch base,
pitch modulation and volume. Each of these settings are displayed/
adjusted in an edit text field. Edit text fields are populated
with default settings whenever you select or reselect a voice. If
you change settings for a particular voice and want to restore
the default settings, simply reselect the voice (in the "Voice"
pane using the pop up menu) and default settings will be restored.
NOTE: The current version of CS-KDREV is a document-based
application. If there is text in the main text field when you
quit the application you will be asked if "...you want to save
the changes you made to the document "Untitled"". If you do not
wish to save the contents of the main text field to a file click
the "Don't Save" button.
Support
This software is free software, is provided as is and is not
formally supported. That being said, you may wish to send any
questions or feature requests to the macvisionaries
(www.macvisionaries.com) "Dicsuss" list or directly to the
developer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Download Cocoa Speech KDREV (CS-KDREV):
http://www.kafkasdaytime.com/cs_kdrev.zip
