Is there some other alternative to office which is accessible? Thanks!
Allison
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From: "Travis Siegel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by
theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 8:26 PM
Subject: Re: hi from a new member!
Office for the mac is *not* compatible with voice over which is the main
point of this list. Voice over users need software that works with voice
over. Office does not. I think I'm going to scream if I see that
suggestion here one more time. I apologize in advance, but here we go.
When you joined this list, you were informed it was a list for visually
impaired users using voice over. If you aren't a voice over user, then
you should at least attempt to learn what voice over is, what it can do,
and how it's used before telling those of us on this list to use programs
that have already been discussed thoroughly in the past (check the
archives for office posts) and already been determined *not* to work with
voice over. If this were a general mac discussion list, I could
understand this, but it isn't, it's for voice over users, and if you're
not a voice over user you should check facts before posting that this or
that works. How many hours of productivity has been lost from posts that
claimed that this or that worked (meaning on the mac) but since it's a
voice over list, we wrongly assumed it meant worked with voice over.
Grabbed the program, found it completely lacking, then had to say so on
the list. I don't know why this continues to happen, but I for one no
longer take anything for face value anymore. When someone claims on this
list something works, I will *not* go get the program until I either have
several hours to devote to fiddling with it, or until someone else on the
list I trust says it works. I've lost too many hours messing around with
stuff that just plain doesn't work on the recomendation of someone on
this list who doesn't use voice over.
Rant off, and that's all I'm saying on this topic. I don't wish to stir
up trouble, there's enough of that on here already, and honestly I think
it needs to stop, but I'm not the list owner, and can't say so with any
kind of authority, so I won't say so other than in this post.
And with that said, I'm done here, gotta go make the spaghetti.
On Apr 16, 2006, at 1:27 PM, Pete Horrocks wrote:
Hi Ryan,
Don't mean to intrude here, but you could have used Microsoft Office for
Mac, it contains Excel, PowerPoint, Word, and a few other programs.
I love my Mac, but i will admit, some programs and utilities are easier
to find in the windows world, but even so, i'm hanging with my Mac.
Pete
On Apr 16, 2006, at 12:31 PM, Ryan Mann wrote:
Blindtech, you seem to think that the Mac is the perfect computer that
can replace PC's for everything, so let me ask you a question. What
accessible spreadsheet is there for the Mac? I'm taking an advanced
statistics class and I had to use Excel for a few assignments.
Therefore, I had to use my Windows laptop for that. That is, unless
I'm off base and there is an accessible alternative for the Mac. If
so, please enlighten me. If not, I rest my case. You really shouldn't
get defensive every time somebody doesn't want to use your computer of
choice.
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I am in a totally different field then you are kevin. and by the way,
I can't believe you would take an on air personality as something to
take serious.
My business registered in the state of arizona, The BlindTechs
Network is a business which teaches blind persons how to use their
computers, I do support and training, and system installs. This is
why I take this so serious.
BlindTech of BlindTechs.Net
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On Apr 15, 2006, at 9:17 PM, Kevin Reves wrote:
Sorry. I'm not buying it. Gabe. You have called in to many internet
radio stations and you come across exactly the same way as you did
in your emails. So unfortunately, that doesn't fly. I make my
living off macs too, as a singer/songwriter/producer, and I too am
waiting around for the accessibility to get better with Vo. Riddle
me this. Why can't we use Garage band, Pro Tools, Logic, Q Bass,
etc? Why the hell am I stuck in O S 9 with P T 5.2.1, while my
sighted counterparts are at 7? Is that accessibility? I should say
not. So yes. In a sense, those of us who make a living using our
macs are indeed waiting around for Vo accessibility to improve.
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