Le Sep 12, 2006 à 10:45 PM, David Poehlman a écrit :
I'bve begun to work with VisioVoice while not using VO to attempt to determine what we can do with the Mouse/track pad. If anyone can work on this, it would help to get more than one person's observations. If you've sight, all the better for some of this.
DN : The Talking Interface in VisioVoice was designed for mouse users and to a lesser degree for user of full keyboard access (that is in that area I still need to resolve some glitches). It was not designed with blind users in mind because I assumed VoiceOver to be more effective for that (which is why talking interface is turned off by default when you choose "use with VoiceOver" in the configuration wizard). That said, I am very interested in your observations and if you have ideas on how I could make the talking interface more useful for blind VoiceOver do feel free to drop me an off-list email with your suggestions. What would also be helpful for me to know is in what areas you find the talking interface to be handier than VoiceOver. Again please email off list as I cannot keep track off the huge traffic on this list because of all the other stuff I need to get done on a day. It will alos be easier for me that way to discuss details one on one.
DN: Aside form exploring the use of Talking Interface by mouse I would recommend you also try it with full keyboard access (which is like the alternative to VoiceOver Apple developed for sighted users who can't use or do not want to use a mouse). Also note that you can setup the talking interface to only speak when a user selected modifier key combination is on. That way you get have it be silent unless you hold down those keys.
I've discovered that I can use the track pad to some extent but have not figured out the optimal settings for both the talking interface and the track pad to make this most effective. I did manage though to read an email message with the track pad. I first opened mail, arrowed to the bottom <bong> yes, even with VO turned off, you hear that. I pressed enter and then gently poked around till I found the text of the message and as I moved slowly up and down, the message was read line by line because each line had an image and a caption for the image or so it seemed to me.
DN: Mail used to be very easy in terms of accessibility until 10.4 when Apple for some mysterious reason stopped applying the regularly accessibility model it has been using in other software and been recommending to third party developers. Obviously they worked around it for VoiceOver, but for me the new model is completely incomprehensible. Basically, instead of reporting the whole text in the main mail edit area as editable text it is reported as rows of static uneditable text through the accessibility API. This is completely against Apple's own guidelines and I am clueless why they did this.
I will also attempt with mouse keys so I can see if drag and drop will provide me with the audio cues I need. David, did you get a chance to test this? I have only now gotten the time to do it.
DN: No I did not test this. david.
