Hi
I did not mean to suggest that Apple should change the way VO works with the OS, and your harsh response was uncalled for. I realize that the OS works the same way for the sighted as it does for us. My point was that, in my opinion, it would make more sense for selection to simply be removed from an item and keep the focus in place in the finder, rther than move it to the top of tof the folder. Most sighted people wouldn't even notice this behavior, since they use the mouse in finder more than the keyboard in most cases. What I said was merely a suggestion on what would make more sense for the OS to do in finder when deleting the item via the keyboard. That's all it was--an opinion and suggestion.




On Sep 20, 2006, at 8:56 PM, John Weir wrote:

I keep hearing new people using VO suggest that apple change the way the Apple OS works. What you dont seem to understand, VO works exactly the way the Mac OS works for the sighted. It is intended to be this way and VO is not an add on that changes the way the background OS works like JAWS in the PC. Apple is not going to pay any attention to suggestions that they redesign their OS 10 operating system for every signted and blind person because several people used to using PC want VO to act like a Jaws PC. VO mimics the apple OS and does this so that both the sighted and blind can work together with a common operating system and common GUI. To make VO differrent from the OS10 operating system would pull VO out from inside and part of the operating system and set up a separate overlay program like Jaws is in the windows system and this is totally outside the intent of Apple. Forget the PC, you are now using the Apple Mac and its far better operating system and GUI. Vickie Weir

Jacob Schmude wrote:

Hi
It does this to me, as well. From what I can see, it's just the way OS X handles things. It does make some sense, though, since selection in list and column modes works a bit differently than it does on other GUI platforms such as Windows or Gnome. When you open a folder, you're automatically selected on the first item in that folder. I'm guessing that from the point of view of the OS, when you delete an item, there's no item selected (which makes sense) and so it puts you back at the top of the previous folder. To me, it would seem more logical just to have no item selected. Perhaps we should suggest it to Apple. I'm not exactly sure how icon view reacts either, as I prefer column mode. But I believe selection works a bit differently, so I'll try it.


On Sep 20, 2006, at 3:06 PM, yvonne thomson wrote:

Hi, all.

I don't know if this has been discussed before, and I certainly can't find it in the archives, but I've got a question about the finder.

Here's the story. I'm sorting out my incoming directory. It's got downloaded files, random text snippets, that kind of thing. I need to delete some, move others, you know the drill. The problem is, it seems that in list mode or column mode, whenever I hit cmd-delete to send things to the trash, I get zapped to the top of the folder I'm in, rather than staying where I was when I deleted the file. I have the usual, all cursors tracking each other setup. So, can anyone explain to me *why* this happens? I'm presuming it's os x thing rather than a VO thing, but I haven't been using it long enough to be sure. As for Icon mode, I don't use it much, and testing it now, I have absolutely no idea *what* it's doing in that case.








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