Your right any text inside the "double square bracket" stuff "right double square bracket" is now considered an embedded command and not spoken. It does not matter if it is a real command or not. SpeechML or SSML as it is sometime known is a much better solution to this and I have urged Apple to implement it. SSML is what Cepstral supports which is why the original DTBmaker used their voices. And why for real quality work I continue to suggest using their voices.

Greg Kearney

On Feb 8, 2007, at 11:01 , Rich Caloggero wrote:

Also, this kind of obscure "markup" can cause problems. What if you wanted to actually write out the string "double square bracket" stuff "right double square bracket", and your "stuff" just happened to match a command. Probably
not too likely, but possible.
Very cool nonetheless though.

What about speechML - this should probably be the way this kind of control
should be implemented.

Just my two cents...
-- Rich

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From: "Cheryl Homiak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by
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Subject: Re: Embedded speech commands in VoiceOver


This is really interesting.

However, while newbies probably wouldn't know this immediately, it
should be easy
enough for people to check the spelling of gregkearney in an email by
reading letter by letter--ctrl-option-shift-right/left-arrows. Is this
for some reason not working in Apple
mail for some people? Admittedly, I am currently using Pine most of the
time so I can use braille, but i just tried this in apple mail and it
worked for me. The only major problem I see with this is that if you use infovox or Cepstral voices, you can't tell which letters are capitalized.





--
Cheryl

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