Josh. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. Yes, as a beta tester myself, I can appreciate your points during the early stages of develpment. But Leopard is not in the early stages of development. It's mere weeks away from release. It's just incredibly unlikely that such significant changes will occur in hardware between now and the official release of Leopard which would break their support. And in any case, all Apple needs to do is say as of such and such a date, this hardware revision is supported. No, I'm sorry, I think as I said we'll have to agree to disagree. If I were to go out and buy display A with hardware revision 1.x.x and then Apple were to announce that only revision 2.x.x would work, then yes, I can understand that. Your point about dozens of displays is, of course, valid. But when Window-Eyes first had Braille support implemented, those same dozens of displays were all added at once. Granted some have been added in the time since then. But that's perfectly understandable. So the only word I can think of to describe Apple's approach is coy. I understand that they're covering their backs. But they're really not helping their customers to be ready for the switch. Okay, taking your point one stage further. What happens if Apple releases Leopard and they state that display x is supported. I go out and buy display x, only to find that the hardware has changed. Same situation, is it not? So still I'm no further forward.

On 17 Mar 2007, at 15:02, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:

Hi Gordon and Will,

Let me create a scenario for you to hopefully give you a better idea of what Apple is up against. What if Apple made a public statement that displays X, Y, and Z would be supported in Leopard. Then, Gordon, you went out and bought display Y for yourself. Something goes wrong in the development of Leopard. It could be something as simple as the manufacturer of display Y made significant changes to how their display communicates with a computer, or something else. And when Leopard was released, display Y was no longer on the supported list. You'd be peeved...probably a lot more than peeved.

The Windows screen readers being public about what they support doesn't hold much water. Those screen readers have been around for a long time and support a lot of legacy hardware. If they make announcements about additional displays they will support, it may only be one or two, not a dozen or however many Apple ends up supporting officially. This is the first time Leopard will, presumably, support Braille output. Apple has to tread carefully in case anything goes wrong, or risk upsetting customers.

I know first hand the enormous backlash you can get from customers in these kinds of situations. Is it disappointing? Sure. I wish Apple would go ahead and announce more things. But it isn't company policy, and their company policy is a wise one.




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