Just curious sir but how is voice over's reactions in terminal a
"Deal Killer"
sure you have to "VO up and down and maybe vo plus shift plus write
and left to read charictor by charictor but it works"
thanks
Gabe
On Apr 13, 2007, at 7:48 AM, John Heim wrote:
Right. That is the official NFB position on screen readers. They
asked Microsoft to *not* improve narrator to the point where it
would compete with jaws and window-eyes.
I think the real test of the NFB policy will be determined when
leopard is released. Voiceover has some big problems right now. I
personally can't use it as my primary screen reader because the way
it works in a terminal window is a deal killer for me. But maybe
it will be improved in leopard.
There are other free screen readers available, orca for gnome and
nvda for Windows. Voiceover is easily the best of the free screen
readers. To be fair, the other two are still in the development
stage.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Kearney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac
OS X by theblind" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: Hi
Biggest problem with the Access World review is that the author
told me in person before the review was ever written that he
would "make sure this blew up in Apple face." He never intended
to give it a fair review. The whole matter was dishonest from the
start.
There are those in the blindness community who do not want built
in screen readers in any OS. They believe that Apple by doing so
will cause Microsoft to do the same. At that point the market for
third party screen readers will disappear and with it their
choices in Windows screen readers. So they oppose any effort by
Apple to introduce accessibly as part of the OS.
Greg Kearney
On Apr 12, 2007, at 6:16 PM, Access Curmudgeon wrote:
Welcome Ari. I think you have hit on four of the biggest reason why
switching is appealing for screen reader users. Here are some more:
http://home.adelphia.net/~bmss/vo/reasons.html
That Access World article was all wet, very disappointing. Here
is a
list of most of the problems with it:
http://home.adelphia.net/~bmss/vo/aw060505fix.html
Those URLs are expected to go dark sometime.