Speaking of useless and redundant key commands, how do the folks who say that JAWS alone has redundant key commands explain the two menu commands on the mac. vo m, and ctrl f2. What is the point of the vo commands here? Or vo m twice for the status bar. Why not just use ctrl f8?

A good example of how OS X allows us to utilize its key functionality without vo, is on the internet. There is no vo command to find form fields because it is not needed when you can press tab or option tab depending on how you have it set. As I recall, you can toggle the tab functionality by using ctrl f7.

I used to have winblos on my computer to use ms word, powerpoint, and excel when I was in statistics. Now, I don't necessaroly need excel anymore, and latex has pretty much taken the place of ms word and powerpoint. So, I don't have it on my machine anymore.

I changed over to the mac from windows with jaws about a year ago after using jaws for 6 years. That was my first computing arrangement. When I first tried the mac, I had a lot of trouble because I was trying to use it in the same way as I would with jaws. So, I got a list of short cut keys on my braillenote, and started spending a couple hours each week at the apple store trying out different key commands and I kept up my reading of the discuss digest to listen for more key commands to try. Within about a month, I would say that I had a relatively good idea of what I could do with a mac and was ready to rough it for the increased relyability. I was surprised at the extra functionality that I got out of it as the months went on and I found new programs that work with vo. I don't think I could have ever guessed that I would get so much use out of OS X and vo without any more substantial upgrades to the screen reader.

When I got over trying to use my mac like my PC, I have to say that I did find vo more simple to use than jaws. It is more simple because you scarcely need to know but 5 or so key commands to get started with your computer. After that, you tend to just pick up more as you go.. It is a good idea to read the short cut keys in the menus of applications.

Also, alt f4 is not a jaws command. It, and ctrl f4 to close windows within apps like ms word, will work whether jaws is turned on or not.

Regards
Justin Harford


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