My point was mis-constrewed. Pre-installed widgets being supplied
by Apple should be accessible, as should more of their built-in
software, and I have every confidence in Apple that these things
will be addressed as VO continues to evolve. If Apple expects
third-party developers to use their own accessibility options, they
should be using them themselves, and I feel we'll see more of this
in the future from Apple.
Command line options are OK so far as they go, but your average
user is not going to be skilled enough or have patience enough to
work with complex commands. I want to see Apple's piece of the
access tech market grow, but it won't if they are not able to cater
to the less adept. This, "Take what we can get," mentality is not
necessarily a bad one, but we should also be encouraging Apple to
improve their own products. I think they are and will, the recent
changes to iTunes being a huge indicator of such. We should not
allow our enthusiasm for not having to pay $900 to make our
computer accessible blind us, no pun intended, to flaws that we can
positively encourage changes for.
I really admire Slau for spearheading the push to make ProTools
more accessible. I recommend listening to his interview on
www.ScreenlessSwitchers.com if you haven't heard it. If he took
the, "take what we can get," attitude, he'd be content to continue
using outSpoken on an old OS9 machine so he can do his work, but
instead he took some initiative. This is what we should all be
doing, and I'm happy to see that so many on this list have done
just that. I've sent my share of emails, especially recently, to
various third-party developers, requesting they look into and
implement changes in their software to make it more VO friendly.
I initially started this thread in the hopes there might be a
trick, with the widget UI, to open the info panels. There
apparently is not. That is unfortunate, as it seems like some
simple adjustments to the HTML would fix the problem. I'm not
asking Apple to monitor all the development for accessibility by
third parties, only suggesting they should for things they are
offering themselves.
If we all took the position that we should be grateful for what we
have and keep quiet about what we don't, I'd not expect any changes
or improvements to VO or third-party apps. Fortunately, I don't
think most of us do. *smile*
Josh de Lioncourt
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On Apr 23, 2007, at 2:57 PM, Gabe Vega wrote:
so which further states the obvious and this is why I love apple
so much and would give my enitre Macbook, g3s and g4s to work
there. they give you all the accessibility toolss and no its not
up to them to do anything. if we can make it accessable aourselves
and if we got the power to then what is stopping us programmers on
list from doing it. and all the other widget developers? the
accessibility tools are there it is not apple's fault if they
don't get used.
