I understand what prompted the discussion about list courtesies, but I honestly must observe that this list is really not much different than just about every email list or forum you can find out there. I think this list might be a bit smaller in number than several of the others I am subscribed to, but the types of people and messages are really nothing "new" in my experience. I guess all lists have specific people who play specific roles during the course of time. We have witnessed a number of debates and discussions, but have, overall, helped each other out a great deal. I can personally say that my knowledge of VoiceOver was enhanced and increased significantly because of the contributions of list members over the two plus years I have been on it.

Personalities are going to clash and topics might galvanize us, but we really should try not to forget what the list is meant to do for blind Mac users. Unfortunately, along with the helpful posts, information given and encouragement, you're going to encounter trolling and a variety of attitudes as well. Any new person to this list should realize this fact if they frequent other list communities. It's the nature of the beast, I'm afraid. I'm not making excuses here, folks, for anyone, but just pointing out a reality that I have, at least, come to learn.


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On Jul 23, 2007, at 7:55 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Its extremely unfortunate that I've just learnt that perhaps one of the "most learned" members of this list has decided to quit it for good because of what's happened over the last 12 hours, shame because we can never get enough people to give others a hand.

On 24/07/2007, at 9:09 AM, Richard Gardenhire wrote:

Thanks, Cheryl, for putting this in its proper perspective. I just followed this thread a few minutes ago and saw your post. I was steered to this list by a fellow Mac user from another state. I have learned a lot of valuable information from this list to help me to more efficiently use my machines here at home. Hopefully, as I learn more, I can be of help to someone out there who may be just getting comfortable with their computers; after all, learning is living. Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska.

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