Hi James,
That is exactly how mine is done. Just a mix of letters and numbers that have no meaning.

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On Aug 5, 2007, at 1:16 PM, James Jolley wrote:

Hi again,

The password would be unguessable. It was numbers and letters, rather similar to a software key with the dashes and all sorts.

Thanks again for the info though.

-James-

On 5 Aug 2007, at 18:11, John Panarese wrote:

Hi James,
I guess relative security is a topic that can be debated, but a secure network requiring a password is surely far better than just assuming that no one will jump onto your network. Believe me, I know plenty of people who have home and small business networks who don't even take the simple step of making it secure with a password because they feel that no one is going to drive close enough to their location with a laptop to use it. So, basically, to answer your question, it is how I have mine set up and as I've said, my only real concerns I have come from the fact that I have two Windows systems on it. Using a hardware router itself is also a big plus as well.

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On Aug 5, 2007, at 1:00 PM, James Jolley wrote:

Hi John,

My router should be secure, indeed it asked me for a identification key when connecting to the mac. this key was written on the back of the router. does this mean that it is relatively secure?

On 5 Aug 2007, at 17:08, John Panarese wrote:

Hi Jane,
In the world we live, anyone who does not take security with some degree of importance is fooling themselves. I never said in any of my posts on the subject of security that one should not worry at all about such matters while using a Mac. The subject I addressed in my last message was in regard to viruses, and that was my only point to my comments and not the overall issue of other kinds of attacks on ones local zone. I definitely apologize if that was the impression I gave to anyone.

I absolutely agree that Apple, like any other company in the technology field, is vulnerable and susceptible to any number of security risks, and they do a far better job at dealing with them than Microsoft. That does not imply taking the matter for granted, though. I will point out that, in reality, proof of concept is just that, proof of concept, and in many instances, such "proof" has been offered up wrongly by antivirus software companies seeking to appeal to their own special interests in the market place. This has also led to some Mac users to buy into the fear they intended on creating. In addition, a most recent "contest" that involved hacking a password from a Mac user, among other things, was proven to be rather suspect as the Mac in question had been badly outdated, the rules of the contest were changed midway through its duration and, of course, if one cared to read carefully, Microsoft was a sponsor for the article. In any event, without a doubt, if you utilize third party applications, such as MS Office, you should pay extra care to risks for sure. And, of course, Never Assume anything cannot happen to you, Mac user or not.

I don't run antivirus software on either of my Macs, but I am also behind a hardware and software firewall, and my network is secure enough, as much as I have Windows systems accessing it. I certainly would not recommend to anyone to simply and carelessly go about their business completely ignoring the threat of some kind of security issue, but far more confidently than with Windows, contrary to Mr. Gates' rants, I feel far safer on my Mac than my XP systems. Furthermore, based on what I've read and heard from several IT people, I wouldn't touch Vista's security "improvements" with my worst enemy's computer.

Overall, though, your points are surely taken, and I did not mean to sound as if I was advocating for an utter lack of security methods. I always strongly suggest to folks to make sure they run software updates and to read the information provided by Apple. I know, as with Windows, some Mac users have a bad habit of ignoring those software update reminders and put them off constantly, which is completely the Wrong thing to do.

Take Care

John D. Panarese
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On Aug 4, 2007, at 11:40 PM, Jane Lee wrote:

To John et al,

Sorry, but I think you're underexaggerating security issues. While there are no viruses for Mac OS X, there are plenty of vulnerabilities for Apple and 3rd-party software that still remain unpatched. Even if they are patched, it took quite some time for Apple or the respective vendors to do so, I think the quoted turnaround time for a patch was 2
months.  That's not counting social engineering and the likes of
phishing for passwords through websites and what have you. And if the only reason for not caring is because of the lack of serious sploits
out there, that's not much of a reason..that's lax security, and
you're a sitting target because you are willing to be so complacent
about a possibly malicious attack.

Yes, OS X is inherently more secure than Windows.  No, it does not
mean you're completely protected from every single security threat out there, even the big one of social engineering, better known as human
fallibility.  Security through obscurity is also the worst way to
handle things..just wait until more and more people use Macs.

I'm sure many people saw firsthand all the issues after watching the Month of Apple Bugs unfold...30 back-to-back days of vulnerabilities and proofs of concepts to exploit Mac OS X and some very popular 3rd party apps. Apple released the first security update of 2007 fixing one of the MOAB bugs - the quicktime RTSP bug, 23 days after it was
first announced.  The vulnerability was one where if you visited a
particularly crafted link, it enabled the execution of arbitrary code.
 Simple, elegant, and potentially dangerous.

And if you use Windows, it would not be a bad idea to scan files
before sending them to colleagues or anyone that use Windows machines, or if you're sharing a drive in bootcamp. You can have files that are
infected that don't do anything in OS X that may be dangerous in
Windows. This is no excuse for Windows users not to use software like nod32 or other AV/anti-malware software, but just saying more security
is better than none.

cheers,
jane



On 8/4/07, John Panarese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It is likely that someone with far too much time and the mind to to do so will come up with some kind of virus or such, but for the time being, there are no known viruses that effect the Mac OS. There have been claims and other nonsense about viruses or serious security problems with Macs that have panned out to be relative exaggerations or complete hoaxes. This includes an article in News Week when Vista came out in which Bill Gates ranted about how Mac users are at risk every day and Macs get taken over all the time compared to Windows, by the way. It is, from my understanding, a matter of the architecture of Mac OS X compared to that of Windows. Also, of course, Microsoft
and security are the twenty-first century's greatest oxymoron.

Take Care

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