Hi Tim,

On Friday, September 14, 2007, at 08:11AM, "Tim Grady"  wrote:
>OK, I have some questions.  First, if you already own the Ivox voices  
>can you just purchase ghostreader?  Second, if you can is there  
>anything special you would have to do to set it up?

If you already have the InfoVox/iVox voices because you've purchased
them with VisioVoice, then you don't need GhostReader — VisioVoice
will let you do everything that GhostReader does, I think, and then some.
If you only have the InfoVox/iVox voices, and not VisioVoice then, yes,
you can just purchase GhostReader.  It should work with any system 
voices, but you'll get a set of InvoVox/iVox voices as part of the purchase.
According to David at AssistiveWare, the GhostReader Infovox/iVox
voices can only be used with GhostReader's limited functions of 
reading web pages and documents, and turning these into iTunes
compatible audio files.  Your InfoVox/iVox voices can be used with any
VoiceOver functions.

I think you're responding to my suggestion a week ago to Jon, who
said he had some sight, was at university, and wanted to get started
using VoiceOver to read electronic books in PDF format and Word
documents.  In that case it might be easier for him to use GhostReader,
which uses some of the VisioVoice functions built on the VoiceOver
foundation, but which was designed for mainstream text-to-speech
users, so it likely doesn't require learning much of VoiceOver to get
going.

If you're comfortable with VoiceOver, the main features that GhostReader
would give you are some  additional navigtional conveniences of 
VisioVoice in repeating sentences, jumping paragraphs, etc. and 
the ability to switch voices midstream.  Since VisioVoice and GhostReader
can support text-to-speech in other languages, that also means that
you can read through a document in both translated and native text,
with the correct pronunciation.

To read more about this, go to the Mail Archive search page for the
Macvisionaries discuss archives at:

http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss%40macvisionaries.com/

and type in:

from:"Esther" date:[20070801 TO 20070914] GhostReader

That will take you to links to two postings about GhostReader.
If you select these links, at the bottom of the post you'll also
get links to other posts in the discussion thread.  The August
post has later comments by David Niemeijer that explain things
in more detail.

Incidentally, it's a big pain that  the main discuss archives for 
September at the Macvisionaries site has stopped updating 
again, so I can't make links to posts after about September 2!

The Mail Archive search page works, but since this list hides
email addresses, I have to change the AT sign in the Mail
Archive search address to the 3 characters: per cent sign+4+0
or the link won't be visible.  And that's also true if I want 
users to be able to follow links to individual Mail Archive 
posts.

I suggest that you bookmark the Mail Archive search page,
and the instructions on search syntax from their FAQ:

http://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html#search

This is particularly useful since the Macvisionaries archive
seems to be glitchy, and has truncated parts of discussion
in March and in some later months.

Cheers, 

Esther

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