Rich Caloggero wrote:
OK, I've added more bits to my HTML tests page.

It's best practice to keep each test on a separate page if you want these tests to be useful to developers. See also:

http://webkit.org/quality/reduction.html

Also, except when you're specifically trying to test how VoiceOver and
Safari cope with authoring errors (such as a missing alt attribute) and
non-standard markup (such as the EMBED element), you should make sure
your markup conforms to W3C recommendations. Validating your markup and CSS should be the first step in doing so. There are several validation errors in the test page currently; not all of them are obviously deliberate errors.

I seem to be getting some very strange results in Safari with
VoiceOver which I wonder if anyone else is seeing. When "group
elements on web pages" in the navigation panel of Vo
> utility is checked, things behave reasonably well. However, when
> this is unchecked, navigation through the page becomes very strange.

I often see very strange results with Safari and VoiceOver. But in this case I couldn't reproduce your particular issues. I was using the following setup:

1. All checkboxes in the Navigation pane of the VoiceOver ticked except Group Elements in web pages.

2. Using Safari 2

3. Safari set to "Press tab to highlight each item on a webpage" under the Advanced pane of the Safari Preferences.

Detailed results follow.

Try this, with the group elements option unchecked:
1. open the page and tab till you hear "go button"
2. move back with vo+left
vo says: option1 popup button,
moving back again it says: choose an option,
back one more time: end of document (this should take you to the previous form control which is a radio button)

For me, this takes me to the Maybe radio button not the end of the document.

We can see this another  way:
1. goto the beginning of the document
2. move back one (vo says end of document)
3. now keep using vo+left to move back through the document. It only seems to go back as far as the button labeled "set focus to page title". One more press takes you back to end of document.

I had no such problem. I can cycle back through the entire document with control option left.

A similar thing happens while arrowing through forward. THis time, however, navigation stops after the multi-line text box in the first form, and the next press of vo+right takes you back to the beginning, skipping the rest of the first form, the entire second form and the javascript tests.

Again, this worked fine for me. I can cycle forward through the entire document with control option right.

Any idea what is going on here? I wonder if the window is scrolling and vo isn't catching up?

Not sure, but hopefully we can find some significant difference between your configuration and mine.

Hope this is helpful.

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Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis

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