richke, has there been a need for you to recover? I have not yet run into a situation where at least restarting doesn't work.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Richie Gardenhire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 3:25 PM Subject: Re: Command-F5/Restarting Computer does not turn VO on I'm trying your steps out on a machine with Leopard installed, and it works. Thanks for sending these instructions. Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska. On Dec 14, 2007, at 11:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello! > > I know this problem has already been resolved for Simon, but this > info might help others experiencing the problem of VO not talking... > It did not dawn on me to provide this info previously until I heard > Simon's solution was, with sighted assistance, to physically turn on > VO using the mouse. > > Ever since I installed Mac OS X 10.4.11, this problem has been > cropping up for me. I will be working in Safari, Mail or Vienna and > the Mac becomes "busy." After clearing the application's "busy" > state in one of the many ways described in this forum, Voice Over > occasionally stops speaking and cannot be turned back on again with > Command-F5 (generates the "invalid" beep) -- or even restarting the > computer. > With sighted assistance, I discovered that: > - the "Command-F5 check box in "KeyboArd Shortcuts" was, indeed, > checked (even tried unchecking and rechecking this box to see if it > had any affect), > - the Voice Over "Off" radio button was selected in the Universal > Access/Seeing Pane of System Preferences. > > Because the computer was not accepting the Command-F5 keyboard > command, the only way to turn VO back on was to use the mouse to > click the VO "On" button. > > This happened several times while I had no sighted assistance around > -- *** VERY FRUSTRATING! *** I figured there must be a way to turn > VO back on again without sighted assistance. Here is what I did: > 1. Press Control-F2 to move the mouse to the Menu Bar. > 2. Press the Down Arrow to open the Apple Menu. > 3. Quickly type "sy" to jump to System Preferences. > 4. Press Return to open System Preferences. > 5. Press Control-F2 to return to the Menu Bar. > 6. Press "v" to jump to the "View" menu. > 7. Press Down Arrow to open the View Menu. > 8. Press "u" to jump to "Universal Access." > 9. Press Return to open the Universal Access Pane of System > Preferences. > 10. Press Tab twice to select the Voice Over On/Off controls. > 12. Press Left Arrow to select the Voice Over "On" radio button. > > At this point, Voice Over starts talking again and (miraculously) > Command-F5 starts working again. > > Notes: > - I am running Tiger 10.4.11, so I do not know if these steps will > be the same under Leopard. > - In step 11, the first time you press the Tab key takes you to the > "tab bar" where the various tabs for Universal Access sections are > located. I have the "Seeing" Tab already selected, so I do not have > to mess with it. If the "Seeing" tab is not selected for you, you > will have to move to a different Tab with the Left and/or Right > Arrows -- but, because there is no feedback, I think this may have > the potential of causing some problems... I suggest setting the tab > to "Seeing" while you have VO working as a precaution. This way, > you, too, could just press the TAB key twice like I did and not > worry about it. > - Maybe, one of you Apple Script/Automater geniuses might be able to > create an app that could, in emergencies, do this for us > automatically. > > Hope this helps someone... > > Lou. > > === Original Messages === > > Dear Simon, > > Delighted to hear that you are connected and that Voiceover is up and > running. Thank you for providing us with the details of what happened. > > <snip> > Dear Esther and All, > > I have finally got my Voceover back!!! I'm delighted, relieved and > very very > excited at the quality of the default voice in Leopard. A sighted > friend of > mine came over a couple of hours ago, and using the mouse, activated > Voceover in the system preferences. It works! > > <snip> > >
