Thanks guys.  I did it the first time I turned the computer on, but it
was overwhelming trying to learn all of that in one shot.  Now that I
know I can replay the tutorial, that should make things easier.  Then,
I could listen to the full manual and hopefully, grasp these concepts
more easily.  I already like this list! *smile*  Btw, out of
curiosity, have any of you ever dealt with the tech support at Mac?
Do they know how to use VoiceOver?  I'd imagine they would, given the
quality of everything else they have, but you never can be sure.

Tiffanitsa
On 1/23/08, Dan Eickmeier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yeah, I would advise going through the VoiceOver tutorial that's there
> as well that'll be really helpful for you.
> On 23-Jan-08, at 10:36 PM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>
> > Have you worked the tutorial training program yet? You can start it
> > up by pressing teh control-option-shift-f8 keys.
> >
> > Greg Kearney
> > 535 S. Jackson St.
> > Casper, Wyoming 82601
> > 307-224-4022
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > On Jan 23, 2008, at 8:31 PM, Tiffany D wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks.  I really don't get why this should be so difficult for me.
> >> I'm teaching myself a language and not having as much trouble as I am
> >> here.  Maybe, it's because I'm trying to do everything at once.  I
> >> just want to get to the point where I don't have to keep relying on
> >> my
> >> Windows machine.  If I have to for my Greek stuff, that's ok (though
> >> it'll make knowing what some of my songs are a bit difficult unless I
> >> rename them) but I want to feel comfortable with the basics.  I
> >> know I
> >> could, and probably should, read the manual, but I also want to learn
> >> from experience.  Also, feel free to contact me on msn at
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I hope I don't get in trouble for giving
> >> out
> >> my msn messanger address, but it might help so I don't clutter the
> >> list with newby questions.
> >>
> >> Talk soon,
> >> Tiffanitsa
> >> On 1/23/08, Shaun Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> Girl you need lots of help. For all that you don't get a
> >>> understanding
> >>> of from the list write me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I will help
> >>> you by
> >>> phone.
> >>> On Jan 23, 2008, at 10:07 PM, Tiffany D wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Geia sas/hello,
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm 24-years-old and have been totally blind since I was
> >>>> two-months-old.  I've been a computer user for at least 11 years
> >>>> and
> >>>> bought my first Mac two weeks ago.  It's wonderful but confusing.
> >>>> Some things I get immediately and some I don't.  I've gotten some
> >>>> help
> >>>> from my friends and even wrote out the appendix to the VoiceOver
> >>>> Getting Started Manual in braille.  But I still have some
> >>>> questions.
> >>>> Sorry this is so long.
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. Safari
> >>>> How do I edit the bookmarks on the bookmark menu (the ones that
> >>>> came
> >>>> with the machine)?  What about regular ones?  How do I select text
> >>>> from Safari, copy it and paste it into Text Edit?  How do I
> >>>> properly
> >>>> read a webpage?  I've been using the vo keys and the left and right
> >>>> arrows but am not sure if this is right.  How do I get the
> >>>> browser to
> >>>> stop bringing me to the top of the page when I switch windows?
> >>>> Can I
> >>>> open another window with safari in it and have two websites open at
> >>>> the same time?  How do I download and install things?  I tried with
> >>>> Skype and MSn but neither seemed to be too accessible.  Of
> >>>> course, I
> >>>> chose the ones for Mac not Windows, so I know that's not the
> >>>> problem.
> >>>> How do I delete the programs or uninstall one if I find that it
> >>>> doesn't work?  Sometimes, VoiceOver won't read text fields in
> >>>> programs.  It'll just say edit.  How do I get it to read these?
> >>>>
> >>>> 2. Text Edit
> >>>> What are the editing commands to use with Text Edit?  I can use
> >>>> most
> >>>> of them but I can't seem to use select all, copy and paste.  How
> >>>> do I
> >>>> get to the menu of Text Edit where I can save and open files etc?
> >>>> Also, in the manual, some of the commands used page down, but I
> >>>> can't
> >>>> seem to find that on my Macbook keyboard?  Am I stupid or are
> >>>> they not
> >>>> there?
> >>>>
> >>>> 3. Zips and Accessing Files
> >>>> I uploaded all of my music and documents to divshare.com in zip
> >>>> format.  Can Mac handle zips?  If so, does it come with
> >>>> preinstalled
> >>>> software or do I need to download something?  I once found myself
> >>>> in a
> >>>> place with things like documents, desktop, downloads, music.  How
> >>>> do I
> >>>> get there again?  I'm assuming I could open all my files etc from
> >>>> there.
> >>>>
> >>>> 4. ITunes
> >>>> Once I have my music in the Macbook, how do I listen to it?  I
> >>>> heard I
> >>>> have to use ITunes and that I can't just put my music in a folder
> >>>> and
> >>>> then have it play like it would with Windows Media Player.  Is this
> >>>> true?  If so, what do I need to do?
> >>>>
> >>>> 5.  Greek Synthesis
> >>>> I'm not sure if anyone could answer this one, but it's really
> >>>> bothering me.  One of the main reasons why I switched from JFW to
> >>>> Hal
> >>>> two years ago was that it offered a Modern Greek synthesizer.  I
> >>>> know
> >>>> that I could just install Windows through Bootcamp on the Mac, but
> >>>> isn't there an easier way?  Do any Greek synthesizers for the Mac
> >>>> exist?  The ones I saw were either for Windows (Loquendo and
> >>>> Realspeak
> >>>> and perhaps E-Rhetor) or they seemed to require knowledge of
> >>>> programming (Festival, ESpeak and Demesthenes.)  If such a
> >>>> synthesizer
> >>>> does exist, can I just install it and use it or do I need to
> >>>> install
> >>>> the Greek keyboard and fonts as well?  If I'm wrong on the above
> >>>> ones,
> >>>> please let me know.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for all your help.  I really love my Macbook and I look
> >>>> forward
> >>>> to being able to use it more efficiently.
> >>>>
> >>>> Talk soon,
> >>>> Tiffany aka Tiffanitsa
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
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