David Poehlman wrote:
expectation is easily changed, bad design is not.

Hmm. What makes you think that?

Designs, good and bad, have shaped current user expectations, along with publisher habits and user expectations inherited from previous media and computer information systems.

To go back and change a design used throughout the web would be monumentally difficult and expensive. But it is a linear, technical job. Changing a design for one website is roughly the same as changing a design for the next.

By contrast, changing user expectations across the web is a non-linear task. It gets a lot easier the further along the transition you go. But at the start, it's very hard indeed. One website changing its design does not change expectations for users across the web. Dedicated users changing their expectations does not change the expectations of floating visitors. Changes in human expectations would take a long time to filter through to search engines, which are designed around some of the same expectations and so might send less traffic to sites that had made the switch. In cruder terms, making a change that goes against user expectations has the potential to cost a lot of business.

That certainly doesn't mean changing designs is never worth doing, but don't underestimate the difficulty of changing people used to, and other systems based around, current practice.

I agree about small biew ports so there is no harm in putting a link at the highest point of regard that points to an index. I like the index removed from pages altogether.

We're veering off the initial topic of where best to put the navigation, but I think that's an interesting preference. I think keeping navigational clutter to a minimum is good. However, I also think that it's non-viable preposition both commercially and in terms of general usability to reduce navigation to a single link to an index. Here's just three reasons:

1) Iif you've got a small amount of navigation (let's say Blog, Photos, About Me), then all you do by removing that to another page is replace three links of navigation with one link, and force users to click twice to get to the same content. The more minimal your navigation, the more the returns diminish of moving it to another page.

2) If you have some navigation in the page, you can give users a hint of what other exciting stuff is on your site. If you don't give them such a hint, a lot of them wouldn't bother to look in the index.

3) On complex sites, you can use well-designed navigation to tell users where they are in relation to the rest of the site:

http://www.useit.com/alertbox/breadcrumbs.html

Assuming you don't drown content with navigation, it imposes no cognitive load on sighted users because they've learnt to simply ignore it until they need it:

http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20000109.html

I'm a bit sceptical that removing navigation would improve people's web experience. But if you have knowledge of CSS selectors and the display and speak properties, you can set up user styles for some of your favorite sites and try it out for yourself. All browsers have some sort of facility for doing this, although the user interface is non-obvious and will usually require you to learn some new skills. In other words, it's guaranteed to make the user think. ;) Safari's and Internet Explorer's implementations makes this a little difficult, often forcing you to rely on so-called "CSS signatures" that not all sites provide, but OmniWeb allows site-by-site user stylesheets and the Stylish add-on for Firefox allows customization by URL. Firefox's GreaseMonkey add-on can even alter sites on the fly, which can be more effective than styling tweaks in some cases.

Here's some relevant resources to get you started, if you're interested:

Basic CSS tutorial:
http://www.w3.org/Style/Examples/011/firstcss

CSS selectors:
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/selectutorial/

Display property:
http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/visuren.html#propdef-display

Speak property:
http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/aural.html#propdef-speak

CSS signatures:
http://archivist.incutio.com/viewlist/css-discuss/13291

Loads of examples of user styles:
http://www.squarefree.com/userstyles/

If the next versions of HTML and XHTML includes elements for indicating navigation areas, it would make it much easier to simply remove or hide them. But I suspect that would be a lot less useful than being able to:

* Jump to the next navigation area with a key-combination.
* Read all navigation areas in a page with key-combination.
* Jump to the next content area with a key-combination.
* Read all content areas in a page with a key-combination.

Like I said before, an approximation of this jumping is already possible with JAWS and Window-Eyes.

Don't make me think is a cop out.

From what, exactly?

It is also circular.  It's hard to not make you think and the harder
I try, the more you think.

Any human effort may have the opposite of the intended effect. That doesn't mean that all human aims are circular.

If it's possible to make users think harder (and you say it is), then it's necessarily also possible to allow them to think less than that. If it's possible to allow them to think less, then the goal of not making them think has been achieved. So your criticism of the idea doesn't make sense to me.

Perhaps a good example of how (I think) you're underestimating both the power of users' habit and their intolerance of being forced to think is the widespread failure of the warning dialogues about incorrect certificates that web browsers pop up to protect users from phishing sites.

The Windows environment regularly pops up confirmation dialogs to ask users if they really want to do whatever they just told the system to do ("Do you really want to delete myphoto.jpg?" and so on). This has trained a lot of users to just click OK. So when they see a warning dialog about incorrect certificates, they just click OK without even reading the message.

Of course, reading the message would require the user to think in order to extract the essential idea from a load of technobabble about certificates.

I don't think the unwillingness to learn this stuff makes users stupid: I think it reflects the fact that they are mostly time-poor, non-technical folk trying to get on with a task, and their stupid computer is getting in the way. Making security systems successful will involve making them intelligent enough to take more of the cognitive load off overworked, stressed-out human users.

Regards

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Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis

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