it does
thanks
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Blouch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: Searching for software Python 2.4.4 and other builds for Mac[wasRe: update sites aweful]


The site: can appear anywhere in your query. The trick is to not put any spaces between the colon and the site you want searched. So you could do

site:apple.com voiceover tutorial

or

voiceover site:apple.com tutorial

and they both should give you more or less the same results - tutorials on voiceover found on the apple.com site.

Hope this helps.

CB

hank smith wrote:
you have to have the words
site: then the website?
am I understanding this correctly?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Blouch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 7:42 AM
Subject: Re: Searching for software Python 2.4.4 and other builds for Mac[was Re: update sites aweful]


One parameter that is really handy in Google searching is site: This lets you specify what web site to search. So you could search on

python mac site:versiontracker.com

Often times when I'm trying to find content on a site and their navigation or built-in search is lame I use the site: parameter to google their pages instead.

CB

Esther wrote:
Hi Hank and Jude,

Cheryl offered some excellent suggestions on how to search. I usually put search terms into google and add in macupdate or
versiontracker.  For something that is general purpose, such as
Python, that is also only part of an installation, I'd probably look
for the main site about Python on the Mac, though usually one
can check Fink or Macports. And in the case of a specific multi-component installation I'd put in keywords like:

"soundrts python 2.4 mac" into Google. That brings up a FreeList macvoiceover post which I excerpt:

<from http://www.freelists.org/archives/macvoiceover/07-2007/msg00135.html >
<begin excerpt>

Hello,
I have just made a version of SoundRTS which may work on Mac or Linux.
It works on Windows if Python 2.4 and Pygame for Python 2.4 are installed, and I hope it will work too on Mac or Linux. To install it, unzip the folowing file in the folder of your choice: http://jlpo.free.fr/soundrts/soundrts-1.0-b7-en.zip Then install Python 2.4.4: http://www.python.org/download/releases/ 2.4.4/ (for Mac the link is http://www.python.org/ftp/python/2.4.4/ python-2.4.4-macosx2006-10-18.dmg ) Then install Pygame for Python 2.4.4: http://www.pygame.org/ download.shtml (for Mac the link is http://pythonmac.org/packages/ py24-fat/mpkg/pygame-1.8.0pre-py2.4-macosx10.4.zip ) To start the game, you must find a way to launch soundrts.pyc with Python 2.4 (in Windows I have to double-click on it, but it works only if Python 2.4 is the default Python version).
I doubt it will work at the first try, but let's try anyway.
Jean-Luc

<end excerpt>

I'm guessing that you're all trying to use these games (maybe Cara and
David are also trying this?). I haven't been following any of this, but this
would be my starting point.

This gives three possible sources listed for Mac:
SoundRTS, Python 2.4.4, and Pygame for Python 2.4.4:

http://jlpo.free.fr/soundrts/soundrts-1.0-b7-en.zip http://www.python.org/ftp/python/2.4.4/python-2.4.4-macosx2006-10-18.dmg http://pythonmac.org/packages/ py24-fat/mpkg/pygame-1.8.0pre-py2.4-macosx10.4.zip

Since I'd be suspicious about the status of the Python 2.4.4 build, given the comments from the developer. I'd Google "python 2.4.4 leopard" and
this brings up a page about Python 2.4.4 compiles on Leopard:

http://www.bud.ca/blog/leopard-python-compile

This gives the information that you can compile a working Python 2.4.4
build for Leopard by grabbing the source code if the .dmg file doesn't work:

http://www.python.org/ftp/python/2.4.4/Python-2.4.4.tgz

$ tar xzvf Python-2.4.4.tgz
$ cd Python-2.4.4
$ ./configure --prefix=/Users/kteague/buildouts/shared/python-2.4.4
$ echo '#define SETPGRP_HAVE_ARG' >> pyconfig.h
$ make
$ make install

(you would just do a "configure" -- the above lines with the --prefix
arguments are specific to the name of the user and the directory he wanted to store his python source code. Under Tiger, my version
of python is in /usr/bin, and you'd want your compiled Python 2.4.4
to be in the default search path).

Anyway, ignore this if irrelevant, but I agree with Cheryl that you
can use the search facilities to find the necessary information.
And this is how I would find the parts that I need in the absence of
any other information.

HTH.

Cheers,

Esther

On Feb 09, 2008, at 01:13PM, hank smith wrote:

macupdate won't let you search either
I did a search and it says no results found
when there should be especially for cd burning applications etc.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 11:56 AM
Subject: update sites aweful



I've been fighting versiontracker.com and macupdate.com for different reasons today and haven't managed to find python 2.4 for the mac or download the other dependencies for soundrts either. The problem with versiontracker.com is once you enter a search term and it fails, the next search term had better be longer than what you originally entered or you're burned. I haven't been able to clear the highlighting of python 2.4 so I could just try a search on python. The macupdate.com page is just totally crazy you get thrown whereever on the page when you come in and the search box is hidden. I'm beginning to think these sites won't be of much use anymore without another operating system to search them and do the downloads then transfer onto the mac. Linux can handle this with lynx because lynx doesn't play the games these web sites do with browsers, no javascript to do it so no ajax either.

















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