Hi Chuck, David, and Others,

I don't know about using numpad commander, since I'm on a laptop
keyboard without a numpad and am still using Tiger.  However, I can
add to David's comments.

There is a Universal Access option called Mouse Keys that you can
activate under the Mouse & Trackpad tab of the Universal Access menu 
under System Preferences.  When this is activated, you use the numeric 
keypad instead of the mouse to move your cursor. There is a checkbox 
on the tab that allows you to turn Mouse Keys on and off by pressing 
the option key five times quickly.

On my laptop, if I activate Mouse Keys, I need to press the F6 key to
turn on Num Lock.  This changes the right side of the keyboard so that 
it behaves like the number pad.  You can check this behavior by 
putting VoiceOver into keyboard practice mode (VO-keys+k), pressing 
the F6 key (this is on my laptop where the function keys have their 
hardware behavior), then pressing the keys for "j", "k", "l" give "1", 
"2", "3"; the row above: "u","i","o", give "4", "5", "6"; and the row 
above that: "7", "8", "9" correspond to their numeric values.

Using Mouse Keys on a full keyboard, these number keys should control 
the direction of motion of the mouse cursor.  In particular, it allows 
you to move your mouse independently of links found by VoiceOver to 
places where clicking a mouse produces a result. However, the mouse 
motion using the numpad keys is very small. It seems to be one pixel 
on the screen, and therefore as David says, the results depend on the 
resolution of your screen and the placement and size of your 
application window.

Here's how I tested this on my laptop.  Because of the fact that I
need to use the num lock (F6) key to control Mouse Keys motion with 
"u" (4 on number pad) for "left", "o" (6 on number pad) for "right",
"8" for "up" and "k" (2 on number pad) for "down", the sequence is
important.

I went to my Desktop and used VO-keys+F5 to check the position of the 
mouse cursor.  You need to press this sequence twice -- the first time
will tell you whether the cursor is under an icon, etc. and the second
gives you the cursor position in x and y pixel units.  Now I pressed 
the F6 num lock key, and pressed the option key 5 times quickly to
turn on Mouse Keys.  (I set this up earlier in my System Preferences.)
Using 5 "u" key presses and then reading the mouse cursor position
with VO-keys+F5 (actually, VO-keys+FN+F5 on my laptop) twice, I found 
that the x pixel position decreased by 5 pixels,  Similar experiments 
with the other keys showed that Mouse Keys moved my mouse cursor by
one pixel in each direction, based on the VO-keys+FN+F5 reports.  I 
pressed the F6 key to end numeric keypad mode and pressed the option
key quickly five times to leave Mouse Keys mode.

I don't know how "interact right a bit" works, but maybe the Mouse Keys
behavior will help shed some light on this.  Because positions depend
on your screen resolution, it's not possible to provide general solutions
for problems like clicking the agreement forms for iTunes even if you 
manage this on your machine with Mouse Keys.

HTH

Cheers,

Esther

On Feb 24, 2008, at 07:09AM, David Poehlman wrote:
>I think I have found sort of an answer to this.  as I recall, there is a 
>keyboard mouse command set that has move a bit in all four directions.  I'm 
>not sure how to measure it but when it says a bit, I think it means 
>something like a half a character if that means anything.  It may be 
>measured in terms of pixels, but even that may be deceiving since at 
>different resolutions, pixels may be different sizes but perhaps not enough 
>to matter and even then, it may be adjusted for by the incrament.  This I 
>would imagine would be something for those higher technically capable and 
>possibly sighted to answer.
>
>Thanks!
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Chuck Reichel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "discussion list" <[email protected]>
>Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 9:28 AM
>Subject: anybody using "interact right a bit" as a choice on the num 
>padcommander
>
>
>Hi listers,
>I am looking for information on using "interact right a bit" as a
>choice on the num pad commander
>How much to the right does it move and how does it interact???
>
>Thanks
>Chuck Reichel     Phone     "954"742-0019     or

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