I went to their website, and no, they do not make any mention of brain-wave 
measures. You're right, though; it is possible to measure other processes like 
heart rate.

Rafael


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Justin Harford
Sent: Sun 3/16/2008 8:51 PM
To: General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by 
theblind
Subject: Re: experiences in the lab and the mac
 
I am not sure about brain wave measures, but I do recall seeing places  
for some of the other sensors.  Maybe if you go to verniers website  
and look.  I think they have a whole sight with hardware sensors on  
sale, and I would imagine that the ones that can be interfaced with  
the mac should read ok.

but don't quote me on that.



Regards
Justin Harford

Into this wild abyss, the weary fiend stood on the brink of hell and  
looked awhile, pondering his voyage

John Milton
Paradise Lost

On Mar 16, 2008, at 12:07 PM, Bejarano, Rafael P. wrote:

> Very interesting. Do you know if the software can be used to take  
> physiological measurements, such as temperature, brain-wave  
> measures, or heart rate?
>
> Rafael Bejarano
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Justin Harford
> Sent: Sat 3/15/2008 11:15 PM
> To: General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS  
> X by theblind
> Subject: experiences in the lab and the mac
>
> Hello
>
> There is a bunch of stuff in this email that I am not sure everyone
> will understand off hand, but there were people talking about stuff
> they do with their macs and I just felt like writing about something
> people don't talk about much on the list with the purpose of drawing
> peoples attention to a software medium that is not as widely known.
>
> So this email is just a rant on how I do science with my mac.  For
> those of you who have followed the business with logger 3 under
> windows, they don't have the monopoly on science access anymore.
>
> A while back I posted to the list asking about the accessibility of a
> program called logger pro 3, software used to interface lab pro
> sensors with a computer to allow the person to take measurements in
> the lab such as mass, temperature, PH etc.  This program has other
> capabilities too such as automatic collection of data and various
> other functions that I have not used yet.
>
> The company that makes the software, Vernier, has begun making logger
> 3 accessible. under OS X.  They started with version 3.6 released
> earlier this year and supposedly they tell me that for their next big
> release they are testing it more for accessibility with voiceover.
>
> At present I have successfully made it do measurements of temp and
> mass.  Earlier this week I did a lab on my own, measuring the heat
> released in a reaction with magnesium and magnesium oxide metals using
> a standard calorimeter, logger 3 temperature and mass sensors,
> standard beakers, and a touch pipetter.
>
> I am still unable to take a regression of several data points which I
> had to do for a lab where we found the extinction coefficient $
> \varepsilon$ (for the latex lovers of the list).  That is at the
> moment the thing that I have missed having in the software.
>
> There are other sscientific applications that I have made use of for
> my science and math classes at Berkeley.  I use the LaTeX typesetting
> language to write out all my lab reports.  I have a homework package
> that formats all my assignments with my name, the graders name, and
> the assignment and the date in the headers of the page, and the work
> itself in multicolumn text.  I have recently been working also a lot
> with a package for LaTeX called pstricks, which I suspect could be a
> good way for blind folks to draw, basically saying this from the fact
> that I have found different rules to remember when drawing pictures.
> Thus far I have graphed exponential functions, as well as doing
> reflections across the x and y axes, and translations.  I have not yet
> managed to find how to reflect across the line $y = x$ for inverse
> functions.  I have also managed to come up with a way for drawing
> lewis dot structures for my chem class, illustrating double bonds, and
> up to 4 bonding systems.  I am sorry to say that I have not yet
> figured out how to show more than 4 bonds to a center atom without it
> looking goddy.  Of corse LaTeX is great for all my math assignemnts.
> My GSI can write up quizes for me in LaTeX which he emails and I do on
> my mac.
>
> I used to use the apple calculator but I have recently discovered a
> scientific calculator that runs from the terminal called maxima.
> Those of you with macports can acquire it by typing
>
> port install maxima
>
> In the terminal and waiting a number of hours.  It provides a nice
> easy way to do calculations, sort of like how you would do in the
> braille note calculator, except much better.  It is faster than apple
> calc because there is no need to go searching for buttons.
>
> I also use tables for finding outputs for functions.  I also have a
> spread sheet with element properties on it, in multiple sheets.  One
> sheet has the periodic table of elements in a spacial form showing the
> element symbol and the number in a layout that a sighted person would
> use.  This is important in chemistry to know the locations of elements
> to each other as there are periodic properties demonstrated as you
> progress in different directions on the table.  I also have a sheet
> which has a bunch of other information on the elements like molar mass
> (which I use alot), boiling and melting points, ionization energies
> etc.  I added a sheet that shows electronic and molecular geometries
> of different bond systems.  I have dictionary entries for each of the
> element symbols so that VO will read the names when I am reading the
> periodic table sheet.  I have - following the symbols on the periodic
> table and the entries include these - so that they are not reading as
> element names everywhere else.  For example,
>
> - I
>
> Will read as iodine.  But I by itself will just read as I.  That's
> just something I set up on my computer.
>
> I suppose I should note that I installed a windows virtual machine
> thinking I was going to need to use the logger 3 software with the
> jaws scripts, but I have not come around to actually using the virtual
> machine for anything.
>
>
>
> Regards
> Justin Harford
>
> Into this wild abyss, the weary fiend stood on the brink of hell and
> looked awhile, pondering his voyage
>
> John Milton
> Paradise Lost
>
>
>
>




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