Hi Will, 

>hi again yeah it confused me when it say diarysys thing lol not umlaut
>

Probably my fault for not spelling "diaeresis" the way that VoiceOver wanted;
I used a variant spelling in my first post (just "a" instead of "ae" when I 
wrote about umlauts.  

There aren't many instances in English where the diaeresis gets
used -- mostly examples of names like Zoë, where the accent mark over
the e gives the word two syllables instead of one.

Glad it all works.

Cheers,

Esther

P.S. It's also disconcerting not to find the "m" key in the usual place on a 
French keyboard.


>On 28 Mar 2008, at 15:55, Esther wrote:
>
>> Hi Will,
>>
>> You wrote:
>>> WL:         hi as i use a british layout i cant get the ugerman umlauts to  
>>> work.
>>> how can i type the umlauts by setting the kebyaord to german in the
>>> input tab of international?
>>
>> Following Greg's suggestion for the Swedish keyboard I tried using the
>> left bracket, apostrophe, and semi-colon keys on my Mac with the  
>> German
>> keyboard set-up.  Here are the keyboard sequences for typing umlauts
>> by setting the keyboard to German in the input tab of the  
>> International
>> menu in system preferences. (Remember to select German under
>> Text Input on the menu bar -- VO-keys+m twice, right arrow to Text  
>> Input,
>> type "G" for German and return):
>>
>> ü (umlaut u)   for [ (left bracket - key to right of letter p on  
>> U.S. keyboard)
>> ä (umlaut a)   for ' (apostrophe - key to left of carriage return key)
>> ö (umlaut o)   for ; (semi-colon - key to right of letter l and left  
>> of apostrophe)
>>
>> ß (eszett or sharp ess)  is where my hyphen key is -- to the left of  
>> number 0
>>
>> The key combinations using the option key that I described earlier  
>> (with
>> the U.S. keyboard) also all work for me with the British keyboard  
>> setting:
>>
>> ü (umlaut u)   Press Option+u keys; release and then press u
>> ä (umlaut a)   Press Option+u keys; release and then press a
>> ö (umlaut o)   Press Option+u keys; release and then press o
>>
>> ß (eszett or sharp ess)  Option+s
>>
>> The only thing that may be painful about this is typing at speed,  
>> since
>> you need to make sure that the Option and u keys are released before
>> pressing the key you want accented.
>>
>> However, I prefer to use my standard keyboard and enter French
>> accents this way.  Be aware that some of your other letters will not
>> be where you expect --- I tried to type "hyphen" to record the key
>> setting for the eszett key in the German keyboard and got the "z"
>> in place of the "y".  These two keys are switched.
>>
>> On the French keyboard letters "a" and "q" are switched and the
>> "w" and "z" keys are switched.  I have a hard time typing at speed
>> with the "a" key in a different position.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Esther
>>
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