We've had a few tivos for a long time now, but I never knew it was
actually accessible.  I thought that you had to do everything through
the remote and the menus and that even the web stuff whas done on tv.
Nice to know that I was wrong.  But what's a Slingbox and how do you
use it?  Another problem that I had with Tivo was the fact that I
couldn't choose programs, fast forward through things etc.  Aside from
your current problem, will this give me the same options as a sighted
user?  Oh, and we now have fios from Verizon.  Will that interfeer
with it?

Thanks,
Tiffanitsa

On 3/31/08, erik burggraaf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, If I get the series three version, can I record things from cable
> tv? I've got cable in my new room in TO, and was thinking about
> getting an external toner card for the macbook better that than go out
> and buy a tv. I really dispise tv if the truth be known, but cable
> might have movies or sports or music programming I want.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Erik
> On 30-Mar-08, at 7:01 PM, Darcy Burnard wrote:
>
> > Hi. I have been using a tivo for the last few months now, and now
> > can't imagine life without it. The web interface works very well
> > for scheduling recordings. You can use the web to schedule
> > individual recordings, and season passes. A season pass is what
> > Tivo calls it when you record a show whenever it comes on. I really
> > enjoy the fact that I can schedule recordings on the web, because
> > not only is it accessible, but I can do it while away from home.
> > I've been staying at Holly's for the last while now, and I can still
> > schedule recordings on my Tivo that's sitting at home. I've been
> > watching said recordings through my slingbox, which by the way works
> > extremely well with the Mac and VO.
> > All that being said, is there any way to get the content off the
> > tivo with a mac that does not involve toast? I'd rather not buy
> > toast if I can avoid it because by all accounts VO access is lacking.
> > Darcy
> >
> > On 30-Mar-08, at 12:09 PM, Scott Bresnahan wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Ok, let me try to address the follow up questions you folks have
> >> asked.
> >> 1. How good is Tivo for a blind guy?
> >> Tough question. The actual TV UI is not at all. The remote does
> >> give you nice audio feedback for the buttons, but the setup and
> >> programming of recordings would be quite hard without seeing. That
> >> said, I love Tivo, I can see on My Mac all the things Tivo recorded
> >> and I can transfer and play them on my Mac with Toast and the Tivo
> >> Transfer application. And, I have not tried this, but you can
> >> program your Tivo at the Tivo web site. This may be a practical
> >> work around for programming your Tivo. Granted, I have not tried
> >> it. My Tivo recordings are limited to all shows with stargate or
> >> battlestar in their title. Hi, my name is Scott and I'm a sci-fi
> >> junkie. [Yep, I know those of you who will hold that against me!]
> >>
> >> Also, Tivo exposes my iTunes playlists to my stereo. And, if you
> >> have an iPhoto library, it will show your albums on your TV for
> >> friends and family.
> >>
> >> 2. How do I rip the audio from a DVD?
> >> The Handbrake application can do this. If it's a copy protected
> >> DVD, I believe audio hijack can do this too.
> >>
> >> 3. Toast compared to Disk Utility?
> >> Yes, as I mentioned, Disk Utility can copy stuff too. I personally
> >> find the work flow of Toast easier and faster for this function.
> >> Although yes, Toast does cost a lot for what I think it does.
> >>
> >> Please be aware that there are three versions of Tivo in existence.
> >> Series 1, Series 2, and Series 3. Series 1 was the original Tivo
> >> and requires a phone jack. It won't connect to your network.
> >> Avoid a used series 1 like the plague. A series 2 is a big step
> >> up. It has a USB port for a wireless or ethernet adapter. This is
> >> the kind that can join your network. The series 3 is the HD version.
> >>
> >> Hope this helps.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Scott
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> how accessible is tevo period to operate buy a blind guy?
> >>> I found a tevo at a good will for 15 bucks
> >>> am so tempted to buy it
> >>> thing is friggen huge though
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Bresnahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> >
> >>> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac
> >>> OS X by theblind" <[email protected]>
> >>> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 3:05 PM
> >>> Subject: Toast WAS: Re: copying a data CD
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> I can give you a little more info about Toast 8. I'm not sure
> >>>> what's new in 9. If you run the Toast application, I think it's
> >>>> totally unusable with VoiceOver. Practically nothing is
> >>>> available in the main window, and not all commands are available
> >>>> via the menus. So, if you want to build a dvd or audio CD using
> >>>> Toast, I think you are out of luck. That said, I do think it is
> >>>> easy to copy a DVD or CD using Toast, or even burning disk data
> >>>> to a backup. I do all these things via the contextual menu
> >>>> "Toast It" option, which basically takes any finder object (CD,
> >>>> Volume, folder, file) and lets you burn it to disk. It still
> >>>> takes you to the main toast application and main unusable window,
> >>>> but all the data is pre-populated just the way you need it, and
> >>>> you just hit burn from the menu. So, in that limited way, I
> >>>> think Toast is nice. But, I have no idea of the slew of other
> >>>> features I'm missing. But frankly, I use iTunes to burn music
> >>>> CDs if I even bother anymore, and and I don't really use the
> >>>> other toast features.
> >>>>
> >>>> I will say that the Tivo Transfer application is nice and mostly
> >>>> Voice Over friendly. I use Tivo Transfer to backup stuff on my
> >>>> computer more often that I burn using Toast.
> >>>>
> >>>> I know that's not much more info than I gave the first time, but
> >>>> if you have a specific work flow or task you think you might want
> >>>> to use Toast for, I'd be happy to comment on that process.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best,
> >>>> Scott
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi Scott,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The only version of Toast that I've used (very limited) was
> >>>>> Toast 7, which
> >>>>> was the first version to appear as a universal binary. My
> >>>>> impression from
> >>>>> from scattered reports on the list by Gordon Smith and others is
> >>>>> that
> >>>>> Toast 8 and 9 have both become less accessible. Is there
> >>>>> anybody who
> >>>>> can comment in more detail?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Esther
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Toast 3 and 4 worked well with voice technology, then Adaptec
> >>>>>> spun it
> >>>>>> off or sold it and they graphicalized the interface. I'm not a
> >>>>>> power
> >>>>>> toast user, I tend to need to either burn copies of cds or dvds
> >>>>>> or
> >>>>>> burn the contents of a folder. For these tasks, Toast's
> >>>>>> contextual
> >>>>>> menu is very easy. Toast it. Wait, hit enter, stick in
> >>>>>> blank. The
> >>>>>> GUI is not very useful. A lot of unknown items. But for me,
> >>>>>> it's
> >>>>>> easier than Disk Utility, and I wanted the Tivo Transfer
> >>>>>> utility that
> >>>>>> Toast provides.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Bottomline, Toast isn't all that friendly to VOiceOver users.
> >>>>>> I'd say "poor".
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>> Scott
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Scott.
> >>>>>>> how well does toast work with voiceover? thanks for the useful
> >>>>>>> info.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Keith
> >>>>>>> On 28 Mar 2008, at 13:36, Scott Bresnahan wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> If you want an exact copy of that CD, you should use the
> >>>>>>>> utility
> >>>>>>>> application Disk Utility. The procedure goes like this:
> >>>>>>>> 1. Insert original CD.
> >>>>>>>> 2. Run Disk Utility.
> >>>>>>>> 3. Select the CD volume from the outline view.
> >>>>>>>> 4. From the File Menu, Select New submenu New Disk Image from
> >>>>>>>> Selected volume.
> >>>>>>>> 5. Save the disk image somewhere on your hard disk.
> >>>>>>>> 6. Eject the original CD.
> >>>>>>>> 7. Select from the Images menu the menu item Burn...
> >>>>>>>> 8. From the Dialog, find the image file you just saved and
> >>>>>>>> follow
> >>>>>>>> the final instructions.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Although Tim's steps are ok too, the disk utility technique
> >>>>>>>> will
> >>>>>>>> preserve the exact file structure and not add any finder store
> >>>>>>>> files or any other hidden files to the copy.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> But, if you own Toast, you can just contextually click on
> >>>>>>>> the CD
> >>>>>>>> and select "Toast It!"
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --Scott
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Keith,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> You said: maybe i should have said that i wish to copy it to
> >>>>>>>>> another CD. sorry.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> TK: Not much different. Simply put your blank CD into the
> >>>>>>>>> drive
> >>>>>>>>> on your MacBook, a dialog should appear asking you what
> >>>>>>>>> you'd like
> >>>>>>>>> to do with the blank CD, choose "open the Finder" if it isn't
> >>>>>>>>> already chosen. Once in the Finder, an item named "Untitled
> >>>>>>>>> CD"
> >>>>>>>>> will appear on your Desktop, you can rename it if you'd like
> >>>>>>>>> using
> >>>>>>>>> regular renaming conventions. After that, simply follow the
> >>>>>>>>> instructions outlined in my previous post below to copy the
> >>>>>>>>> selected items from the original CD to the blank one that
> >>>>>>>>> should
> >>>>>>>>> be on your Desktop.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Later...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Previous post:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> You asked: can anyone tell me how to copy a data CD using
> >>>>>>>>> my Macbook?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> TK: You can either select the icon representing the Data
> >>>>>>>>>>> CD on
> >>>>>>>>>>> your Desktop, then press cmd-c to copy it to the
> >>>>>>>>>>> clipboard, then
> >>>>>>>>>>> navigate to where you wish to put it and press cmd-v to
> >>>>>>>>>>> paste it
> >>>>>>>>>>> there, or, open the Data CD, press cmd-a to select all its
> >>>>>>>>>>> items, then cmd-c to copy andthen navigate to the place
> >>>>>>>>>>> you wish
> >>>>>>>>>>> to put it and then press cmd-v to paste.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> HTH.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Later...
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> & Carter the Canine
> >>>>>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn
> >>>>>>>>> & Carter the Canine
> >>>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ----Scott
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> --Scott
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -- --Scott
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> --Scott
> >
> >
>
>
>

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