I have no doubt in the world of their commitment to accessibility of open office, but I wouldn't expect this to suddenly emerge as the jaws/ office equal for mac do to limitations with VO that still exist such as the difficulty it has in handling environments with large quantities of items. Has anyone tried to read a busy discuss digest lately on their mac? Big emails don't work very well. What about reading a big website? Again, not so good. Sure tables works great, but has anyone ever looked at how many cells he has. There are about 6656 cells in an average tables doc. Has anyone read about the amounts of cells they like to put in those larger spreadsheet apps? I remember apple calc was like 30,000. I think they were striving for another rediculous number in office 08. Do you really think that vo is going to work very well with that.

And what about tables in wordprocessors.  Of course those don't work.

We will need to see another OS release before windows to mac connverts can expect to see the same level of GUI office access as they did in windows. But honestly why even use MS word. It's a childrens program, the sort of thing I used to write high school papers on. I write all my work using LaTeX, including school papers, lab reports, math hw, and I also use it for keynote presentations.

I sure would like to see some more advanced functions in tables though.

Regards
Justin Harford

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On Mar 31, 2008, at 3:14 PM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:

The OpenOffice developers have been quite open, if you'll excuse the pun, about their intention to make OpenOffice accessible with VoiceOver. Their commitment was first announced back in January on one of the Apple developer mailing lists, and reaffirmed at CSUN. I'm not surprised that the current beta isn't working yet, but I do expect we'll see VO support in OpenOffice soon.

Josh de Lioncourt
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On 31 Mar, 2008, at 1:56 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

As has been discussed before, Office 2008 is not accessible. So with the announcement of Open Office 2.4 being released I thought I'd give the other ones a try. Open Office 2.4 is the last Mac release that will require X11 so this should certainly help them on their way to becoming accessible. I had to hunt a bit but I found the Open Office 3.0beta download for Mac which is now a native app here:

porting.openoffice.org/download/aqua.html

162MB later (400MB uncompressed) I found that not much has changed. The pull-down menus are accessible but my quick test of opening up a new word processing document showed that the document is not readable (or reachable) with voiceover. That's assuming you could get past the silent initial setup wizard. Just for the fun of it I also updated NeoOffice to 2.2.3 patch 1 with similar results. Nothing to see here. Please move on.

CB




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