Hi James, For directions, you say to adjust the verbosity setting for text attributes in voice over. Is this the same dialogue box that pops up when you hit the VO keys plus V and right arrow to text attributes? If so, it stil does not appear to read all text attributes as they change. Consider the following line of text in a document. Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of our party. If I were to underline just the words all, and aid, which are in the middle of the sentence, voice over would not tell me of this unless I read by word. When I had the "say all attributes" option enabled and read by line, voice over only told me what the attributes were at the beginning of each line and not the rest. I'm sorry to harp on this issue but I will need precise formatting in law school. I tried asking the people at the apple store for help, but nobody knew voice over. One of the trainers even recommended JAWS for windows instead! So, did I access the right verbosity option? Or is the one you speak of different? Also, what reading commands should I use to be notified of all changes? I tried with the up and down arrows, and even the VO keys plus S and vo keys plus P commands, all to no avail.
Thanks for helping out! -----Original Message----- From: James Austin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 3:06 PM To: General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind Subject: Re: questions about mac and word processing Hi John, Don't worry, that's what this list is here for, to help users and new users alike. Well... Control + Option + T will tell you the attributes of the text the cursor is on, but this is not really necessary generally as you can turn the text attributes option on in the Voice Over Utility. To do this do the following: (I am assuming that you are using a desktop Mac, if not you might need to hold down the FN key with the Control + Option F8 to open the Utility) 1. Open VO Utility with Control + Option + F8 2. Navigate to the "Verbosity" page 3. Navigate to the "When text attributes change..." drop down box where you'll see three options - these are self- explanatory. Regarding the footnotes, you can do your footnotes in the text i.e. author book title publisher etc and then copy them and put them in the footnotes when you have all the footnote set out the way you want it. If you're going to get Nisus contact me off list if you like and I may be able to help you get your bearings as it is what i am currently using to write my Dissertation All the best James E- Mail - [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype - saulky1984 On 14 Apr 2008, at 20:23, John J Herzog wrote: > Hi James, > Thank you for answering some of my questions. > As far as the footnotes go, I will need to be able to read and > modify all of > them. So this might be a bit of a problem. > Second, regarding text attributes, what voice over commands do I > have to use > to be notified of the changes as I'm reading? > Forgive my ignorance, as I have spent little time with a mac. > However, I > like what I've seen thus far, and want to make the best out of my > upcoming > visit to the apple store. > > Thanks so much, > > John J Herzog > > -----Original Message----- > From: James Austin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 10:21 AM > To: General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS > X by > theblind > Subject: Re: questions about mac and word processing > > Hi Jon, > > Yes Voice Over will tell when font and text attributes change. > > What do you mean when you say can Voice Over read footnotes? If you > mean are they accesible with VO then the answer is sort of yes if > using Nisus Writer. It's not feasible past the first page of your > Nisus document, but hopefully the developers are working on this. > > Best > > James > E- Mail - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > MSN - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Skype - saulky1984 > > On 14 Apr 2008, at 15:36, John J Herzog wrote: >> Hi list, >> >> As a potential mac switcher, I have a few questions about creating >> complex >> word documents. I was hoping you could shed some light on this >> subject for >> me. >> >> If using voice over, is it possible to determine how a document is >> formatted? In other words, can you tell when text is indented, when >> the font >> style changes, and what portions are underlined, bolded, etc? >> >> Also, is there a way to read foot notes? >> >> I briefly looked over the voice over manual and do not see any of >> this >> information. Any help would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> John J Herzog >> > > > > >
