Hi Jason,

The thing about that concept is as I see it, is that putting a full blown version of osx on the apple just replaces the apple tv os with osx, hence it wouldn't be an enhanced apple tv, it would be a mac. grin. Which means you get Front Row, not the apple tv features. However Front Row 2 is VO compatible so I guess if one wants a cheap mac to perform Front Row features only with VO support, then the hack is just the job.

Apple need to be prodded into doing is making the out of the box apple tv os accessible, which is either going to be down to them or down to some hacker / programmer somewhere doing it for them. I have seen a copy of the apple tv os floating about on the net and rumours of how to make it boot on say, a mac mini, but I'm no programmer. I wish I was !

There are lots of hacks to make the apple tv do other things as we know, but VO doesn't seem to be one of them. There was a thousand dollar bounty running at apple tv hacks net as I recall for the first person who could make the apple tv take advantage of usb devices as main storage - which was eventually achieved. If I had that sort of money I'd put one up for VO support because I doubt Apple are going to do the honourable thing and do it themselves.


Rachael

On 8 May 2008, at 00:54, Jason Custer wrote:

Well, one advantage is that if it can be made accessible, it can work as an enhanced apple-TV, enabling vi users to watch videos and listen to itunes, maybe even handle flash content from the web. This makes it better than
apple TV's original OS, just in these features alone. Add VO, and wow!
Probably not to useful as a mac considering its limited processor power and
memory, but for it's intended purpose, it could work well.

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Hi guys.

The apple tv can and will run a full version of osx, and thus voiceover, but it has to be hacked first. It doesn't run the full version out of the box,
it has it's own os as Shaun says, but it can be done. See
http://www.appletvhacks.net/2007/04/01/mac-os-x-running-on-apple-tv/
This makes the apple tv a pretty cheap mac for basic stuff if one is happy to go poking around inside. Not sure I'm up for that myself and I can't see the point to be honest. But then I already have a full blown mac. smile.

So far Apple don't seem to be interested in making the apple tv os as it is out of the box accessible though as far as I know, which is a bummer as I'd be all over one if they did. If it worked with VO like Front Row it would be great, as there are other hacks around to do all sorts of other media centre
like things with the apple tv.

Rachael


On 7 May 2008, at 19:07, vashaun jones wrote:

Naw, there isn't a operating system like the one on the Mac so that
will not work. The Apple TV has its own software and maybe just
maybe it's accessible through the Mac interface if one is connected
and I tunes is running.
On May 7, 2008, at 3:46 PM, Jason Custer wrote:

Hello all,
As there is practicly no traffic on the list today, I thought I
would start
some with a question.
I've been looking at some information about apple tv.

http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/RDM.Tech.Q1.07/E1D8A057-6FBB-4269-A348-27AF
9010FB19.html
That link is to an article describing the guts of the "white box."
It shows that it runs on a 1.0 GHz. intel processor with 256 GB ram
and OSX
10.4.7.
http://wiki.awkwardtv.org/wiki/index.php?title=USB

http://0xfeedbeef.com/appletv/
The above two articles show how you can boot an apple tv from usb
devices.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTgC_dmp8vE
This is a video showing it done.

I have nothing to do with these links, I just found them with google.
Here's the question. Has anybody got one of these crazy things? if
so, can
you enable the usb ports , hook up a keyboard, and try to launch
voiceover
to see what happens?

This aut to get things going around here!

Jason







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