Hi Erik, On June 26, 2008, at 05:38AM, erik burggraaf wrote: >Dang you're good. I read that archive for hours and never find >squat. I'm not even sure from the layout if it even archives all the >messages. Are we perhapse using two different archives? > >erik burggraaf
I'm using the Mailing List Archives for this list at: http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss%40macvisionaries.com/ This supports Boolean searches, searching by author, date, and subject, and also allows me to page through posts by either thread (next or previous) or date (backwards or forwards) once I have found a post. Just go to the search page, tab to the box for search terms, enter a few keywords (or phrases, if you put them in quotation marks) and press return. You'll get a Google-like set of links to results, with the subject for the link, the post date, two or three lines from the post showing your search terms used in context, and the author. There's more information on the Search syntax options if you check the "Refine search" link after you've run a search. That's just a link to their FAQ subtopic of searching: http://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html#search You can find the link with item chooser, but I usually just VO-right past the search input box if I need to read this. (Well, usually I just VO-down to the links and the context sentences and start reading.) You may want to mark the page for snapback (Command-Option-K or find the option under the History menu on the Safari menu bar) if you browse through a few entries and want to come back to this search results page to (Command-Option-P or find the option for Page Snapback under the History menu of the Safari menu bar) If you want to read through one set of links and then return to browse other links. There are shortcuts to read next in thread (Control-n), previous in thread (Control-p), next by date (Control-f), previous by date (Control-b), and if you want to search for only new posts and not replies you could add: "-Re" (without the quotation marks) to your search terms There are two archives that I know of: one at the MacVisionaries page and this one at the Mailing List Archives. The MacVisionaries archives are not searchable, unless you use Google and point to that site. The Mailing List archives for this list has a built in search function. The archived posts go back through December 5, 2005. (There are earlier posts you can read if you use the MacVisionaries archives instead.) The MacVisionaries archives appear to be incomplete for a few months that have heavy activity. We first noticed this for March 2007 -- when iTunes became accessible and there were tons of posts. The last posts just didn't get archived, and this has happened a few times since then. You can also read this list at the Mailing List Archives. This is what I do when I'm away from my computer but have access to a web browser. By default the page is organized by thread, so if you VO-down you'll get a link to the start of the most recent thread. To change this to a list by date items, use Control-I. To go back to a list of content by thread, use Control-C. If you start reading the first item in a date-ordered list, use Control-b to move back to the next-to-last post, and Control-f to move forward by date. Other browsers may use the Alt key for shortcut combinations in place of the control key. I'll probably post again, with some examples, of how to search the archives. I started to answer Simon's post about this but had to start again. HTH Cheers, Esther
