I understand that David, but, you're missing my point. I meant in a more
bigger picture: if it could be done, gutted or not, then why couldn't Apple
do the same for their own product. That was all I was saying.
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
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rockbox guts the IPod to get everything in.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Gilland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:58 PM
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speaking of IPods, why can't they put some form of speech like voiceover
into IPods. I mean come on, if it could be done with Rockbox, then,
surely
Apple could do it with their own product.
Why should it be our! burden.
Chris.
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Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:37 PM
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Hi CB, there are two ways this could be done. Apple could engineer an ui
and back it with vo or a 3rd party could develop an app that talks.
there
is a hardware device for the IPod called ITel I think that achieves at
least
part of this for the IPod.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Blouch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 12:33 PM
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So out of curiosity, how would you make an iPhone accessible? Obviously
it needs a speech engine, but how do you interact? There is no tactile
UI. I think it's a lot like a touch screen kiosk and some have simple
instructions saying to touch the top left for yes or top right for no.
That kind of interaction model doesn't scale very well for complex
interaction like typing an email . Not making excuses for Apple but this
seems like a tough nut to crack.
CB
Krister Ekstrom wrote:
22 jul 2008 kl. 05.10 skrev UCLA Bruins Fan:
I did bring this to an apple agents attention when I was calling
about another issue and was told that apple would "look into it" This
was in June, and appparently nothing has been resolved as of now.
But seriously, what do you expect with all this Iphone business going
on? I'm sorry to sound like i do, but it has always been like this
that snassy flashy looks has been prioritized over functionality and
accessibility. To be frank, i'm surprised that we have such a well
functioning screen reader as we have.
With all this said, i agree that the dialog in question should be
usable, i just wonder what the best way to get there is. If we get
angry and demanding, we will only be regarded as whiners and
complainers and if we ask politely, not much seems to happen.
/Krister
