Chris, I stand somewhat corrected. When you hit cmd-4, voice mails do in fact show up in history. You can tell by the duration if a person actually left a message, or if there's no duration, then it was just a missed call. You can also play voicemails from history. What you can not do, however, is delete voicemails. You can remove the event from history, but I think that still leaves the voicemail hanging around somewhere in your home folder. The inaccessible table to which I was referring specifically shows voicemails even though VO identifies each entry as "unknown." The advantage of using the voicemail table is that you can in fact delete the voicemails off your machine. Using the cmd-4 history though at least does provide access. Now if only there were a way to sort that view, such that only voicemails were shown -- maybe there is a way, so looks like I'm going to have to play around with it some more.

Steve

On Jul 28, 2008, at 8:46 PM, Chris Gilland wrote:

Steve, wait, ok, so when you hit command+4 to get to the history, I'm not following what you're saying then you gotta do to get to the voice mails. Are they not in the outline with all the other items?

Chris.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven M. Sawczyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: using my nice new mac with skype..


Donal, glad to hear you're puting your Mac to more use, having switched from Jaws, I know how difficult things sometimes initially seem. I realize this thread has dealt with the issue of Skype chat windows, however, another area that remains grossly inaccessible is voicemails. If you have Skype Voicemails, and if you want to hear them, you'll have a, well, a real interesting time. Voicemails show up in their own table, however, the individual items will be identified by VoiceOver as "unknown." In this way, you won't know who the voicemail is from, or if you've heard it or not. Activating the context menu *may* allow you to play the message, however, I've found that often I have to route the mouse to the table and physically ctrl- click to get the context menu with play option to appear. I've reported the "unknown" behavior to Skype after the release of the last beta, but it was never fixed. Skype did, however, write me a nice form letter thanking me for my wonderful suggestions and ideas which, given that i merely identified a problem, was kind of amusing. Anyway, I'm not sure if anyone else has found a way to deal with Skype voicemail, I know I'd love to be better able to use it if only it were more usable.

Steve

On Jul 28, 2008, at 12:33 PM, Donal Fitzpatrick wrote:

Hi all,

I'm sure this has been asked many times before, so I beg your indulgence for raising the issue of using skype with Voiceover once again.

Just to explain where I'm coming from on this. I am a very experienced jaws user who has just started playing seriously with my mac. I'm trying to get the hang of using skype and, if I'm honest, making a pig's ear of it.

Are there any easy ways to navigate around that screen? In particular, I find the chat window very cumbersome to interact with. For example, are there any quick ways to find out what the latest incoming message is?

Thanks much,

Donal






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