Hi Will,
The problems of the accessibility of Adobe Flash have to be solved by
Adobe -- it's a bit like the discussions of MicroSoft Office
accessibility on the Mac in the sense that the code is proprietary
and the accessibility performance for the browser plug-in depends on
what these manufacturers provide. See this forum post explaining the
situation from the Mail Archive (discussion thread on VoiceOver and
reading Flash files from January 2008):
http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss%40macvisionaries.com/msg26993.html
As it is, in Safari you can't tell where to click on the flash player
controls to play, pause, fast-forward, etc. The Audible UK site is
actually better than the US site in that respect, since they have a
link labeled "No Flash Player?" that you can press to listen to
samples of their audiobooks.
Cheers,
Esther
On Aug 18, 2008, at 6:32 AM, will lomas wrote:
thank you esta
I wonder will voice over ever support flash?
would be good if it did as it is a common feature of many websites
nowadays
On 18 Aug 2008, at 17:21, Esther wrote:
Hi Anne and Will,
I assume Anne used the "Revise without reading with our MP3s" link
to:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/audio/spanish/index.shtml
The problem is that if you go to the page Will gave for the revise
and test links (by Subject) they use Adobe Flash, which doesn't
support the Mac API. If you go to the link of the text-only
version of these pages and examine the source page using the "View
Source" option of the View Menu on the Safari menu bar (sent to
TextEdit), you'll find that after "Listen to this extract about
every day activities." that the page has an embedded Flash player:
<begin excerpt from source HTML>
Listen to this extract about every day activities.<P>
<P>
<EMBED src="http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/flash/
sp101t.swf" WIDTH="160" HEIGHT="32" palette="background">
<end excerpt from source HTML>
Also, the questions for which Will doesn't hear options are the
ones with "Spanish image" before them. So Will is right that the
web pages for Test and Review are not accessible with VoiceOver
and Safari. The downloadable MP3 files and Scripts at the top
link do work, though.
Cheers,
Esther
On Aug 18, 2008, at 5:49 AM, will lomas wrote:
hi anne how did you download the conversation do I have to click
the Bitesize image?
i thought see, it would just play in safari itself
On 18 Aug 2008, at 16:46, Anne Robertson wrote:
Hello Will,
I've looked at the site and was able to download the MP3 of a
conversation exercise and also the script for the exercise which
is a PDF. Just use Control click to download each part and you
will find you can read the script with Preview. My PAC Mate 20
works fine with Preview so I can read the Spanish text.
Cheers,
Anne
On Aug 18, 2008, at 11:20 AM, will lomas wrote:
Hi to all
Just for interest I am trying listening papers from GCSE
spanish to improve my abilities in this language
If however, i go onto the BBC bitesize revision website for
GCSE spanish listening 2 things happen.
1. The questions are not beeing read out yet the choices are in
the popup menus and
2. I can't get the extract to play
Has anyone else had this problem
To test it type into google
GCSE spanish listening foundation
and you should get a BBC bitesize link. Go onto there (it is in
english smile), and then you will see about half way down the
page an image that says, listening bite, but clicking it has no
effect. Then see if you can read the questions relating to the
extract
I may try with Windows via Fusion but just thought i would see
if anyone else has had this problem
Will
