oh yeah, I guess they're not lol! it's been a minute since I've seen a desktop.
On 10-Sep-08, at 6:06 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:

Hi,

You are thinking of the laptops.

On the full sized Desktop Keyboards, they aren't even close.

Thanks for listening,
Alex,


On 10-Sep-08, at 12:51 PM, Jessi Rathwell wrote:

delete is right below eject.
On 10-Sep-08, at 12:46 PM, Chris Gilland wrote:

but, delete, and eject aren't even anywhere even close to each other on the keyboard, so how could that! be?

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Subject: Re: A Dreadful problem senario


I think this was an Apple design choice so that folks didn't accidentally eject their CDs when they meant to hit Delete.

CB

Dan wrote:
Hello,
Under Leopard you need to hold down the Eject key for a second or so.
Dan
On Sep 10, 2008, at 3:51 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:

Hi,

Christ.

I have a G4 Powermac quick-Silver, which I am guessing is what you have. I have had many older keyboards pluged into it, and Always I have to be really dirrect when pressing the "Eject" Key. I mean, sometimes I have to pound directly on the key, in the centre, and it doesn't always work at once, I mean I have to jab it a few times.

Well, just my two cents worth and what worked for me.

Thanks for listening,
Alex,


On 10-Sep-08, at 3:32 AM, Chris Gilland wrote:

OK guys, this has not! thank? God! happened to me yet, and God forbid! the day it does, however, I cannot help but to ask. I do still have my Tiger system, and you'd better believe I plan on keeping it, but, I just yesterday finally! got me a Mac running Leopard! God do I love it! It is a Power Mac G4 just like the Tiger machine, accept this one is 800 mhz. It's gotta 40 gig hard drive. one gigga s d ram, a monitor, a mouse, not sure what type, and a 24 X CD burner/dvd combo drive. It's a pretty sweet system. Anyway, there is however one really big problem. Um? Like, bloody hell? The guy from Craigs list who gave me this thing has no clue about this and suggested I write yall for help. Basicly, now you tell me if this is not lovely. Not? The CD drive on the tower has no hardware based button on the front a the tower. It's not slot loading, it actually is a tray, just like normal, but no open/ close button. So, then, I got this keyboard. OK, well, this keyboard is kind of interesting. It's newer than the keyboard I got with the Tiger box. Basicly, it looks almost identical to a windows keyboard with very few differences. For one, above your arrow keys, instead of a 6pack, you got a 9 pack. Basicly in that 9pack, on the top is F13 through F15. Then below that is help, home, and page up. Finally, the last row is delete, end, and page down.

Then you got your number pad, and above 7 8 and 9 is clear, equals, divided by, I think? then multiply. Now, getting back to the CD thing... I ran off on this tangence for a reason. So, stick with me. Above this, you got four buttons. You got vol down, vol up, mute, then eject.

Well, the keyboard is not plugged into a hub. It is going directly via USB into the tower. Well, the eject key is doing absolutely nothing. btw, to the right a the space bar is command, then another option key, then a right control key. The guy said this was a much newer keyboard. The end of the USB plug feels real smoothe like the IPod USB plugs feel. The keyboard is kind of a shiny tannish/off white color. There are no feet on the bottom of it to slant it up. Not that they're broken off, they're just not there. They never were. Now, I can find in my desktop, the CD volume, and hit command e on it, and that works. Then to get the thing back in, I just take my hand and very lightly push the tray, and it goes back in. Well, this is all good, and I also have if I vo m twice, then vo right a few times, I do have an icon that says eject. Now if I vo down on that, I do see one menu option which says eject combo drive. If I vo space on that, it definitely does eject. Also in ITunes, if I do command e, it opens. Where the underlying problem, however is, is, ok, I turn my system on one day, well, o? sh**. It won't boot up. Great. Lovely. So CD stuck in the drive or not. That eject key ain't workin. So, I gotta get a Leopard disc in that bloody thang. how 'em I gonna do that though, if I can't boot to the OS to get to that volume and command e on it? How can I do that if I can't get to ITunes to eject it. How do I do this if I can't get the menu bar icon to be accessible? And, finally, how do I do this, if the damn eject key won't work. See? I'm kind a screwed at that point. Unless yall know something I don't. Do yall know a way maybe we before bootup maybe like during bootup could trick the drive into openning? While booting, command e won't work. I already tried. Apparently, Command E only works in ITunes, or on a selected mounted volume. I guess in theory, I could always leave my damn Leopard disc in the drive, just in case, but, that's kind a pathetic. There's gotta be a better way. I am totally perplexed why the eject key won't work. I even mounted an external volume, made sure cursor tracking was on, highlighted it in the desktop, then hit the eject key instead of command e, but that didn't even unount the thing. I turned off voiceover, and it did no good. I'm just wonderring if maybe even though this keyboard has that key, maybe it isn't supported with this tower. BTW, this keyboard doesn't have an on/off power button. you gotta do it on the tower itself. I dono if this is a newer IMac keyboard, or what. Again, God forbid the day this senario happens, but it would be nice to be able to rest assured that if this does wind up happenning, I have no reason to pannick. If it crashed, I don't wanna have to take that darn thing into a store, and say, hey I crashed and there's a CD in here, can you pop it out for me? It's like, o, gr'r'r'rate, not again, Cr'r'ris.

So, yeah, if anyone's got any idea, let me know please. I'll check and see maybe if there are any software updates that'll fix it, but somehow I doubt it, being last night, I updated everything to the most current, or so I thought I did. Although even if I didn't! you'd still! think I could get the booger opened before it fully booted.

Anyway, this is really kind a pannicking me, not that it's gonna crash any time soon, I hope, but, knowing if it does, I don't have a way to really deal with it, um, yeah.

Chris.




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