Hey, no problem.  It happens.

Chris.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Esther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 4:10 PM
Subject: Info on how to turn on 4G speech in Windows or Mac [was Re: 4g ipodnano absolutely brilliant]


Sorry for missing the pasted-in documents from Apple about how to turn on speech for the 4G nano from Windows or the Mac

Hi Pete,


On Sep 12, 2008, at 8:55 AM, Peter Apgar wrote:
Does this speech work if your loading it from a windows system?

Thanks in advance,

Pete

According to the Apple Documents the 4G nano speakable menus will work for either Mac or Windows. Here's the document on "Enabling Spoken Menus on Pod nano (4th generation):

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2961

There are instructions for both Windows (XP and Vista) and the Mac. The summary is:
<begin quote>
Summary
iPod nano (4th generation) includes the ability to speak the name of selected menus in iPod software using the text-to-speech capability built into or installed into Mac OS X or Windows. These voices should be SAPI-compliant for Windows or Speech Manager-compliant for Mac OS X.*

<end quote>

I don't what the activation process is like on the Windows side, but it's even easier than their instructions for the Mac imply, because all those settings are automatically on when VoiceOver is switched on -- no need to check any of the boxes, etc. Only thing you need to be aware of is that the first menu entry on the iPod is to select language. If you just select (by pressing the center of the scroll wheel) the default entry, you'll get U.S. English, and the nano will start telling you the top level menu right away. The top entry is the one where you've run your finger counterclockwise around the wheel and the clicks have stopped. (You're probably there to begin with, and won't hear any clicks when you move counterclockwise). The U.K. English is one click clockwise from that position according to other posts on the web. That's new for this iPod model, and I don't know why it would make a difference here.

Cheers,

Esther




-----Original Message-----
On Sep 12, 2008, at 3:18 AM, David Poehlman wrote:

how did you get it so fast?


Was that addressed to me or to Scott? I walked into my local Apple Store and asked them whether they had the 4G nanos in yet, and they said they did. So I now have Alex reading me the albums, artists, and song titles, along
with the other menu items.  The only thing I regret is not fixing up  the
pronunciation of the foreign language titles in the speech menu of
VoiceOver's utility before I did the sync.

One very  odd new mode is that you can start shuffle play by shaking  the
iPod nano <grin>.  I'm not making this up!

Cheers,

Esther




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